17 Sep
2014
17 Sep
'14
10:13 a.m.
On 17 Sep 2014 at 08:57:35, Denis Gervalle (dgl@softec.lu(mailto:dgl@softec.lu)) wrote:
Well, there is also another way to tackle that
problem, which is to make
the HomePage easily configurable.
I have never understand why the home should be Main.WebHome, which does not
seems meaningful, in particular in french. Even the Main space is weird,
imagine a Hand space in english ;) (WebHome could also seen weird, while
being more usual words that I feel hurt less, and could be ommitted).
So, back on track, why not having an easy way to say, "set current page as
the HomePage", and to in fact use the Dashboard itself as the default
WebHome ?
Why the hell should we have to destroy some interface to have a different
home page ?
WDYT ?
Denis, this is essentially what my Home Page Application does.
But it doesn’t solve the main problem: editing the home page when it’s the dashboard!
And it doesn’t solve the issue of the explanation of the concepts.
And it doesn’t invite the user to modify the home page when it’s a dashboard.
Thanks
-Vincent
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:52 PM, vincent(a)massol.net
wrote:
On 16 Sep 2014 at 15:47:59, Marius Dumitru Florea (
mariusdumitru.florea@xwiki.com(mailto:mariusdumitru.florea@xwiki.com))
wrote:
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http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs We won't have the activity stream on the home
page by default. This is
an important change. I can't decide yet..
Yes I know…
Now we could decide to still have it on the home page. We haven’t decided
the content for that new home page yet.
However adding it may intimidate users from editing the page since they
might be worried about loosing that feature. But it could also be made
clear that the Wiki’s Activity is available from the Dashboard.
The instructions explaining that the page can be edited could even give an
example about how to include the Dashboard page for those who want to make
the home page a dashboard.
Thanks
-Vincent
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM,
vincent(a)massol.net wrote:
> Hi devs,
>
> As you know I started working on a Home Page Application, see:
> - JIRA with screenshots: http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10586
> - Discussion thread: http://markmail.org/message/ghelufamwucog46x
>
> I have it all done locally but I refrained from committing it because
on the
email thread some expressed their doubts.
>
> I started thinking about it and I expressed some idea in the thread
started
by Caty about "Wiki - Space - Page concepts pitch":
http://markmail.org/message/jefze7nvprz36pkw
>
> I’m pasting it here again for discussion (with some edits):
>
> "
> BTW concerning the home page, I’m more and more leaning towards
removing the
dashboard from it (it’s accessible from the App panel anyway)
and instead have it contain:
> - explanation about how the wiki is
organized (wikis, spaces, pages)
> - explanation about base concepts (editing, saving, etc)
> - encourage the user to edit this home page to make it his own and put
the
content he wishes instead
>
> I think this would solve the following issues:
> - users always want to customize the home page and this makes it easy
(it’s a
standard page, no dashboard). This is also a way for them to take
ownership of the wiki as theirs.
> - explains the main concepts of wiki, space,
page
>
> Of course, we also need to provide a navigation panel for easy
navigation in
the wiki/spaces/pages.
> “
>
> If we agree about the idea of removing the dashboard and instead have
a
simple page then we’ll need to discuss the exact content and for that I’m
proposing to discuss with Caty/GuillaumeD and make a proposal for further
discussion. Of course any idea in reply to this email would also be much
appreciated.
>
> But first things first! We first need to decide if this is a good idea
or
not.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
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