On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 15:38, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
  Hi Denis,
 On Oct 6, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Denis Gervalle wrote:
  On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 14:58, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
> Hi devs,
>
> As you know in XE 3.0 we've changed the behavior for resolving local
> links/attachments when they're included using the {{include}} macro 
(they're
   now
resolved against the included document instead of the including
 document).
 
 I do not remember this change. Does not this depends on the context=new ? 
 
 No. Context = new is only about isolating the execution context. It's not
 about deciding against what to resolve the links/attachments 
I do not see discussion about how relative links has to be resolved their.
I do not feel confortable with the facts that based on context=new,
$doc.getURL() obviously change its behavior, and that the equivalent XWiki
syntax could follow a different path based on resolved=current|source.
This seems to me introducing additional complexity, and therefore potential
confusion.
  > Now there
might be some use cases (pretty rare IMO but they exist) where
> you'd want the links to be resolved against the including document. 
Here's a
   use case:
you have a sheet document that references an image called
 image.png and you want that the including document provides it (like an
 Abstract in Java! ;)).
 
 This is not rare, but this could be solved using velocity anyway.
> So we've brainstormed with Thomas and here's our proposal:
>
> * Introduce a new {{display reference="…"/}} macro. This macro will
> *execute* the passed reference in its own context (it'll do what 
  {{include
 
context="new"…}} was doing before). It'll be located in the new display
 module.
 
 Does not this new macro exists already in 1.x syntax under name '#Topic' 
  ?
  Was it a mistake to have not kept this one in 2.x
? 
 Probably.
 > * Deprecate the "context" parameter
of the {{include}} macro. The reason 
 is
 > that calling with context=new is not an
include, it's a display.
> * Add a new "resolve" parameter for the {{include}} macro with possible
> values = "current" | "source", with a default value of
"source".
> resolve=source means that the links/attachments are resolved against the
> source (ie the document being included). Using resolve=current means 
 that
   you want
the links/attachments resolved against the including document.
 
 Since I have really thought it was depending on the context parameter, 
  why
  use a new parameter for this ? 
 See above. They're 2 separate things.
 
 
Why separating them so much ? What are the use cases ?
{{display}} replacing context=new sounds good to me since it clarify a
parameter that many do not understand.
But, the resolve parameter seems to me putting back confusion.
{{display}} implies resolve=source
why {{include}} does not implies resolve=current ?
If you consider all use cases, there will be situation when you want to
access both source and current attachment, no ?
So the global resolve parameter seems inappropriate IMO, and having the
default above could be simpler.
If you really want a specific resolution, it should be on a link by link
basis.
 > Pros:
> * Clearly separate the 2 use cases: display and include
> * Make the include macro simple (a single "resolve" parameter)
> * Use the new display module as it should be and start the direction of
> having displayer macros for displaying all types of entities
>
> Note: In the future we'll also want to deprecate the "document" 
parameter
 > of the include macro in favor of a more
generic "reference" parameter, 
 which
 > will allow the macro to include other types
of entities (such as an 
 object
   property
for ex).
 
 Is this reference parameter already support 
 
 No. right now there's only a document parameter supported.
  , and is this only the
 deprecation for future ? Why not deprecate right now ? 
 We would need to agree about it first and it's not the subject of this mail
 ;) (let's go step by step!).
 
 
Not that I want to mix stuffs, but since {{display}} will replace {{include
context=new}}, having the first with a reference parameter only and the
second with a document parameter only, is somewhat inconsistant.
We should consider either supporting document in {{display}} or reference in
{{include}} IMO.
 Thanks
 -Vincent
 > WDYT?
>
> Here's my +1
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent 
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