12 Feb
2018
12 Feb
'18
11:10 a.m.
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 12:04 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
We could remove the custom themes logos, or remove support for some of the
themes.
Thanks,
Caty
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:49 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea <
mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
We have a problem here with the themes that use darker colors and they
provide their own logo, with the correct contrast colors.
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
The label says "Default Logo". Also the majority of ColorThemes don't
have logos provided, so they inherit the one from the Skin.
Hi,
> On 9 Feb 2018, at 15:34, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 4:29 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
>
>> Hi Caty,
>>
>> I see in the screenshot that it says “The default logo can be
overridden
>> (typo in your text btw ;)) by Color
Themes or at wiki or page
level”.
>>
>> Several questions:
>> * What does it mean “at wiki or page level”? How do you do that?
Using a
>> custom skin? Using a color theme?
>> * Does it mean this is adding yet another way of defining the logo,
which
>> means that we would the ability to set it in the new admin UI, in
skins
&
>> in color themes? Isn’t that too much?
>> * What does it mean in practice when you set it in the admin UI,
i.e.
>> where is it materialized?
>>
>
> Well these are the questions we need to answer from a development
point
of
> view.
> In theory it would be nice to be able to change the Skin logo using
this
> control. Somehow create a shortcut between
this default logo and the
skin
> logo, or change the base skin logo from the
filesystem. This way the
Color
> Themes will display the logo. Other ideas are welcomed.
>
> The description is technical I know, still there are so many ways in
XWiki
> to change to logo and override it, that a warning is welcomed.
Right now, I disagree with this proposal (I’d vote -1 if it were a
vote)
since it doesn’t currently address what happens
to the other ways of
changing the logo and it adds yet another way on top of the existing
ones,
making the situation even more complex…
So for me we need to:
1) Rationalize the change of logo better in the proposal and explain
what
happens to the other places and explain in the
proposal why the user
would
use one or the other of the ways. Do some ways
get deprecated or not
either?
2) Define what it means to change the logo in the
proposed new Admin
UI.
Does it create a new skin? Does it modifies the
DefaultSkin page and
attach
a logo to it? Does it modifies the currently
selected Color Theme and
adds
a logo to it? Does it do something else?
I would add that if this is the *default* logo and each color theme
defines
its own logo (like it happens right now) then changing the logo from this
section will not have any effect as this logo will be overwritten by the
logo specified on the color theme.
Thanks,
Caty
I also need some answers to my questions asked above such as "What
does it
mean “at wiki or page level”? How do you do that?
Using a custom skin?
Using a color theme?"
Thanks
-Vincent
> Thanks,
> Caty
>
>
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>>> On 9 Feb 2018, at 14:34, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> As some of you know, in January we had another session of usability
tests
>>> performed. As a result of those tests, I have prioritized [1] some
issues
>>> that we might want to improve in our next 10.x+ Roadmaps.
>>>
>>> One of the entries from that list is: "Create a dedicated Logo
section
in
>>> Administration".
>>>
>>> Although we made some improvements in this area, users still
struggle
to
>>> find the Logo changing area (takes more than 3 minutes). Plus
there
is
a
>>> lot of confusion between the Skin and ColorThemes overriding.
>>>
>>> This is a proposal to explicitly have a Logo section inside the
Themes
>>> section of Administration
>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/
>> IdeaChangeLogo#HSolution1-1
>>>
>>> Let me know what you think,
>>> Caty
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Usability/
>> Tasks5/Prioritization/