16 Dec
2015
16 Dec
'15
10:27 a.m.
Hi Caty,
On 16 Dec 2015 at 10:20:18, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
(valicac@gmail.com(mailto:valicac@gmail.com)) wrote:
Hi,
Having an user called 'Admin' is something that might be preserved. Maybe
changing the password, but besides that there is no point in deleting the
user.
Having an user called 'User' is not 'personal' enough and I'm not
sure if
someone would keep and use this kind of user, after the initial log-in.
I don’t know who suggested creating a user called “User” :) That would be bad idea I
agree.
So in the Installation Notes, we could promote the
Admin user for
Administrator's notes, while encouraging the registration of new user in
the Getting Started guide.
That’s not enough. Nobody reads install notes or guides. IMO it’s better to have it done
in the DW. If you check how you install OSes, they ask you to create a user as part of the
process. That seems the nicest as an install flow.
The disadvantage of registering when just testing
XWiki is that it takes
longer. Ideally we should have social login that creates simple user types.
Social login is interesting too but it’s far from being the main use case. I’d say it
corresponds to 5% of XWiki use cases since XWiki is an enterprise wiki and you install it
on premises and don’t make it a public site in general. And you don’t want your employees
to use social logins in lots of cases.
For automated tests we would need a simple user and
create tests with
simple flows.
We do that already in several places.
Another solution would be to make the displaying of
Create terminal pages
check box disabled by default. So advanced Admin user would need to go to
their profile page and activate it, just like we have for "Display Hidden”.
Yes that could be an option but I’m not sure yet if it makes sense. The real question is
whether Admins need to be able to create terminal pages or not as part of their job. If
the answer is no then your solution could make sense.
Thanks
-Vincent
Thanks,
Caty
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:07 AM, vincent(a)massol.net
wrote:
>
>
> On 16 Dec 2015 at 07:14:31, Marius Dumitru Florea (
> mariusdumitru.florea@xwiki.com(mailto:mariusdumitru.florea@xwiki.com))
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Guillaume Lerouge
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Devs,
> > >
> > > another observation regarding this. Earlier today I watched a new user
> who
> > > was trying XWiki 7.3. He had created a number of pages as terminal
> pages.
> > >
> >
> > Did he use the default Admin profile (which is configured as advanced) or
> > did he register a new profile (which is not advanced unless you configure
> > it explicitly)? The default Admin profile is not the best way to test
> XWiki
> > if you are a simple user.
>
> Note that anyone trying XWiki will use the Admin user ATM since that’s the
> only user we provide by default and we even tell users to log with this
> user in the installation instructions… :)
>
> To fix this we could ask the user to create both an admin and a user in a
> DW step. Or make the admin a simple user by default.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> [snip]
>