On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 9:50 AM, vincent(a)massol.net <vincent(a)massol.net>wrote;wrote:
Hi Andreas,
Yes, we completely agree that we need to be able to reuse existing
bootstrap themes.
AFAIK what Guillaume was proposing was either to integrate a bootstrap
theme maker UI (which one, I couldn’t find a good matching one when
googling quickly?)
or our own one (our ColorTheme application). But this
would be only a way
to generate a theme from XWiki’s UI. Of course we need to ensure that using
existing bootstrap themes will work fine too and offer a way to upload/use
them.
Thanks
-Vincent
On 1 May 2014 at 11:34:23, Andreas Hahn (ahahn(a)gmx.net(mailto:
ahahn(a)gmx.net)) wrote:
Hi,
I think it won't hurt to add an outsiders pov to the discussion
although I'd guess it may sound a little bit provoking ;-).
Consider dropping support of all Xwiki specifc theme / color editors
in favor of an as-tight-as-possible developer-level integration of
twitter bootstrap.
Bang !
The reasoning for this is that no matter how much efforts and brains you
will put into doing skins and colors a la xwiki you will never even come
close to an amount of options that is offered by 3rd party commercial and
free template vendors (that build on bootstrap).
There are offers like themeforest
http://themeforest.net/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&term=bootstrap
where you can find hundreds of theme templates based on bootstrap.
For a designer / developer who tries to build individual customized
front ends with very little effort this is a buffet of possibilities and
inspiration.
Given a better (=deeper) integration with xwiki might break ground
for new use cases outside the 'traditional' wiki world. And xwiki users
would benefit
from an almost-as-easy individual site customization as other well
recognized platforms offer
(Wordpress, Joomla, Drupal, ...)
IMHO Bootstrap is pretty much a safe choice in terms of long term
support for the front
end as java is as the programming language for the backend.
And from my personal experience using themeforest / bootstrap as a
development
resource in a recent project: It's been fun, it's been effective, result
is good looking.
Enjoy
Andreas
Am 16.04.2014 14:08, schrieb Ecaterina Moraru (Valica):
> Hi,
>
> With the new Flamingo skin and with the design investigations done on
> existing Applications, there are more and more questions related to:
> * how will the applications be displayed on the new skin, while
conserving
> the same look on the old skin;
> * how much an application should preserve previous functionality and
how
> many efforts are we putting in adapting the
functionality for new
layouts;
> * when do we create a new application vs.
when do we retire one;
> * etc.
>
> This question applies in general to applications and you can also read
some
> discussions about applications like Panels
[1] or ColorThemes [2].
>
> In this thread I want to discuss some variants related to application's
> presentation:
>
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ApplicationPresentation#HVa…
>
> I am interested in our position regarding this topic and if we have
like a
> 'standard' solution or if the answer
depends on the application in
cause.
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ColorThemeforFlamingo
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