12 Jul
2016
12 Jul
'16
11:39 a.m.
Hi,
+1, generally.
I also feel a bit frustrated by the seeming redundancy of having both
Article and Encyclopedia on one side and Meeting Report and Simple page
onthe other, since from a helicopter view they are 95% identical. However,
I believe that the whole point of templates is to have a very specialized
usecase that is answered and that the user can immediately use. If every
time someone wants a simple page, but selects meeting notes and removes a
lot of formatting, then they will just end up creating a simple page
template.
These are just a couple of usages that we consider to be very common and
which we decide to offer some help by default (in the default flavor).
Others could be added (even from Caty`s extended list), since we`re missing
tables, macros and many other useful XWiki features that are otherwise hard
to discover.
Thanks,
Eduard
On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Alexandru Cotiuga <
alexandru.cotiuga(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hello,
+ 1 for all
The difference between Article and Encyclopedia could be increased by
adding other specific elements on each one's layout.
Thanks,
Alex
On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/TemplatesDefault#HProposal
of
> the templates by default is to help discover the template feature and its
layouts.
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/TemplatesDefault/WebHom…
page.
the
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In case we don't like a particular Template,
then the best strategy is to
have individual votes for them.
@Anca, from your feedback is hard to know if you prefer Article over
Encyclopedia.
Since we need to release 8.2 final at the end of the week I would like to
advance with this topic: either by committing all the proposed templates
or
just a subset, but I need more opinions.
Status:
1. Article (Article page): +1 Vincent, +1 Caty
2. Encyclopedia (Encyclopedia page): +1 Vincent, +1 Caty
3. Meeting Report (Agenda and notes): 1+ Vincent, +1 Caty, +1 Anca
4. Simple Page (With table of content): +1 Vincent, +1 Caty, +1 Anca
Thanks,
Caty
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Anca Luca <lucaa(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Anca Luca <lucaa(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Caty,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> > > valicac(a)gmail.com
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > By default there are not many page templates an user could see.
> > > > In order for users to understand the power and purpose of XWiki,
it
>
would
> > > be helpful to add more content templates by default.
> > >
> > > Content Templates are templates that don't belong to a particular
> > > application, but provides an initial content structure. The
templates
>
will
> > be suggested in the creation step.
> >
> > Here are some templates we could add by default:
> >
>
> >
> 1. Article
> > > 2. Encyclopedia
> > >
> >
> > I think these two are the same one, they should be collapsed into
only
> one
> > template. I don't really understand the differences between these
two.
>
The differences are in layout.
In my opinion this is not enough to have both of them. For me, the goal benefits
to users, and the way to do that would be to show interesting
usecases of the template feature. Having two templates for the same
usecase
but with different layout is not aligned with
this goal, but would be
more
> aligned with the goal of showing that we can do different fancy In
> addition, this logic would allow to have multiple templates for the
other
usecases
as well, with different layout, which would not be a good idea
(e.g. another meeting report, with a different layout) because would
bloat
the list...
Anyone else?
Thanks,
Anca
>
>
> >
> >
> > > 3. Meeting
> > >
> >
> > Should be called Meeting Report (or meeting notes), so that the
> difference
> > with the meeting extension is more obvious.
> >
>
> I will use "Meeting Report"
>
>
> >
> > > 4. Simple Page
> > >
> >
> > Should have the word Table of Contents in the name, so that its
purpose
> is
> > obvious from the start (otherwise "simple page" and the default
"blank
>
page" are not very easy to differentiate ).
>
>
The difference is viewed in the Description, see
>
> Thanks,
> Caty
>
>
> > Another template could be added, "Index page", with a simple
livetable
> > > listing all the children (and descendants) pages of the current >
It's
> > handy when creating the root page of a subtree on the wiki (would
have
> > the
> > > same purpose as "Dashboard", to be a scripted homepage from
where > > > subtree of that page can be
accessed).
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Anca
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > You can test them on
> > > >
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/TemplatesDefault/
> (use
> > > the
> > > > Create button)
> > > >
> > > > Please vote if you agree these templates should be added by
default
or
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> >
> > Thanks,
> > Caty
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