11 Jun
2010
11 Jun
'10
10:36 a.m.
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 09:33, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Yes this is exactly what I think is wrong.
Whoever has the right to modify rights should see all rights. There shouldn't be a
notion of advanced or not because additional rights are *not* advanced stuff. Actually to
give an example, the programming right itself could be considered advanced while a new
right such as "ability to post messages in a forum" would be a basic right.
Thanks
-Vincent
--
Thomas Mortagne
On Jun 11, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Denis Gervalle wrote:
I agree with Vincent here "users and group" would be a lot clearer for
users. The fact that "groups are also users at the end" is pretty
technical for basic user.
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 22:50, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
The reason I mention this is because the first column says type and then you have
"users" and "groups" and not just "users". It's for
consistency and I think from a user POV they're both different things.
On Jun 10, 2010, at 10:45 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
Well groups are also users at the end, but why not... Hi Caty and all,
On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For a while we've been discussing how the new Rights Management UI is
gonna
> look like. After 5 prototype versions, we may
have reached a conclusion.
>
> Please take a look at:
> *Prototype*
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space
> *Explanations*
> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/RightsProposal
>
> Please cast your vote if this is gonna be the final Rights
representation,
> so that we may start the implementation.
> my +1
> Any feedback is welcomed and we can still added improvements to this
> version.
>
> The current version is a collaborative work done by me, Denis Gervalle,
> Raluca Stavro, Alex Busenius, Roman Muntyanu and many others (Guillaume,
> Sergiu, Vincent, Thomas). Thanks everyone for participating in the
process.
+1
I like it.
One question: Why does it say on Rights51Space for the view right that
"Allowed only for evalica" when view right is also allowed for all users in
the Admin group?
Other questions:
* Why does that second column says "Users"? Shouldn't it be "Users
and
Groups"?
* Why
does the extended rights view is called "advanced"? For me it's not
related to advanced or not advanced. It's just a folded view and a full
view. A right contributed by some extension might be as important as one of
the default rights.
Well, this is a point of view. The basic interface allow managing commons
rights, and will probably be the only view allowed for users that have not
their profile set to "Advanced" (like what is done for the edit menu, which
is only shown to advanced users) Right interface is complex, but access to it is
also possible for simple
editors not only for admins. Those only need to manage read/write access to
their page, and those will not understand the ins and outs of the extended
rights. This is mainly why we see this as 2 different view of the same
stuff: a basic view, and an advance view.
You have a similar behavior in the right management interface of Windows
ACLs.
Note that in basic view, you have a summary icon (currently a lock, but this
should be improved) that shows if there is some advanced rights locally set.
The tooltips for this icon list the rights locally set and their allowance,
but does not allow changing them (in the sample, the allowance is not shown,
this is probably a mistake)
Denis
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Caty
>>>
>>> p.s: former discussion about mocking process can be seen at [Proposal]
>>> Rights Management UI http://markmail.org/thread/zgzufskvhe6xt6ey
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