Re: [xwiki-devs] [Rendering] Questions raised by XRENDERING-290: "Add support for linking to a user profile page in XWiki Syntax"

Hi Vincent, As I said on IRC, I am afraid that all your solutions increase complexity for not much, especially for user having a single wiki. To keep things simple, 1) without syntax version change would be sufficient in most cases, but could cause some unexpected breakage. If we want to get rid of those, let's go for a simplification of 3), where only links to other wikis require the doc: prefix. This would be a single new syntax version, and will allow dynamic addition of new prefix for the future. So we would have only two possibilities for documents (parenthesis meaning optional): doc:(wiki:)(space.)name (doc:)(space.)name WDYT ?

On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt; wrote: > > On Apr 26, 2013, at 10:27 AM, "Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)" < > valicac(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> There are a lot of things I don't understand, but I'm just curios if you >> had the same problems when you added 'icon:', 'path:', 'attach:', > 'mailto:', >> etc. Are this words reserved now, a.k.a can not make wikis with these >> names? Or maybe this case is a special one. > > It's not a special one. Right now it already means that if you need to > refer to a wiki named "mailto" you need to use: "doc:mailto:…" > > Thanks > -Vincent > >> Thanks, >> Caty >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt; > wrote: >> >>> Hi devs, >>> >>> I've started implementing XRENDERING-290 (I've spent already 1 day on it >>> and have most of it done) but as I progressed I've realized we need to >>> decide on something. >>> >>> It's an interesting problem! :) >>> >>> So the issues asks for support a "user" prefix in links to link to user >>> profiles such as in: [[label>>user:evalica]] >>> >>> Explanation of Problem >>> ================== >>> >>> I started with implementing a new Reference Type Parser to add support > for >>> the "user" prefix. I soon realized that we cannot implement this in > XWiki >>> Syntax 2.1 since it means if a user currently has > [[label>>user:evalica]] >>> it means pointing to the "user" wiki and to the page named "evalica". >>> >>> Thus we need to add this in a new syntax only (i.e. XWiki Syntax 2.2). >>> >>> Now the problem is that currently Reference Type Parsers are components >>> and implementing a new component means it's going to be available to > XWiki >>> Syntax 2.1. So I spent a substantial amount of time to allow syntaxes to >>> specifically specify the list of prefixes that they support. This is > done, >>> I just need to push it. >>> >>> Now this all looked good till I started implementing the >>> UserXHTMLLinkTypeRenderer… I realized that I would need to be able to >>> transform a String (supposed to represent a username) into a User > reference >>> and even though we don't have an API for this ATM this would normally > mean >>> to depend on the Platform User module… which is a big no go since > Rendering >>> cannot depend on Platform. >>> >>> Side Note:I also realized that XRENDERING-290 could also be extended to >>> support displaying the user's avatar with image:user:evalica. This is >>> currently done with the {{useravatar}} macro (which is also wrongly > located >>> in Rendering and should be in platform for the reason explained!!). >>> >>> So I thought I could just have the UserResourceReferenceTypeParser and >>> UserXHTMLLinkTypeRenderer classes implemented in the Platform User > module >>> but that still meant that the XWiki Syntax 2.2 needs to reserve the > "user" >>> prefix. >>> >>> Then I realized that any time we will want to add support for a new > prefix >>> we would need to introduce a new Syntax version which is a huge PITA > and a >>> pity. >>> >>> I thought about several solutions. >>> >>> Solution 1 >>> ======== >>> >>> * Consider that each syntax can reserve prefix type namespaces and this >>> just means that if the user wants to write a link to a document a wiki >>> named after one of these prefixes then he needs to use the full format: >>> [[label>>doc:<wikiname>:….]] >>> * Thus XWiki Syntax 2.2 would just add the "user" prefix to the reserved >>> list of prefix type namespaces. >>> >>> PRO: >>> * I have this code ready to be pushed on my computer >>> * Doesn't change the current XWiki Syntax notation >>> >>> CONS: >>> * Requires a new syntax whenever a new type parser is added (after a >>> syntax has been released as final) >>> * Creates a relationship between the syntax and implementations (the > User >>> module will provide an impl. for supporting the reserved "user" > namespace). >>> >>> Solution 2 >>> ======== >>> >>> * Don't implement support for linking to users using resource types and >>> add a {{userlink}} macro and move both macros in platform. >>> >>> PRO: >>> * Simple, no need for a new XWiki Syntax >>> >>> CONS: >>> * Not integrated in the syntax >>> * Not very logical since as a user you would want to write: >>> [[label>>user:evalica]] >>> >>> Solution 3 >>> ======== >>> >>> Force XWiki Syntax 2.2 to *ALWAYS* use the full form when creating a > link, >>> i.e. all links to doc would need to be written: [[label>>doc:reference]] >>> >>> PRO: >>> * Solves all future needs for new reference types and makes the syntax >>> extensible for this. >>> >>> CONS: >>> * Harder to write links to documents and users will need to get used to > it >>> >>> Solution 4 >>> ======== >>> >>> Invent a new syntax when you wish to write links using a type prefix and >>> keep the current link syntax for references to documents: >>> * Ref to a doc: [[label>>docref]] (e.g. [[label>>xwiki:Main.WebHome]]) >>> * Ref to anything but using the type prefix: > [[label>>>prefix:reference]] >>> (e.g. [[label>>>doc:doc:Main.WebHome]]: link to a wiki named "doc") >>> >>> PRO: >>> * Still easy to make refs to documents >>> * Makes the syntax extensible by allowing new types to be added >>> >>> CONS: >>> * Changes the syntaxes since it means introducing a new link notation >>> [[label>>>ref]]. Also means that references to docs cannot start with > ">" >>> anymore (but that's not a real issue IMO) >>> * A bit more complex to implement obviously since it needs a change to > the >>> javacc parser >>> >>> Conclusion >>> ========== >>> >>> My POV: >>> * The more correct solution is solution 3 but it makes harder to write >>> links to documents so I believe that's going to be a problem since it's > the >>> main use case. >>> * Solution 1 is already implemented on my computer and I just need to > make >>> a push to have it so the simplest for me. I think it could be acceptable >>> since we don't introduce new type parsers all the time. But it's not >>> perfect obviously. >>> * Solution 4 is the most tempting for me even though it's more work. > I've >>> suggested ">>>" but we could imagine a different notation. Other ideas >>> include using [[label>>doc:doc:Main.WebHome||typed="true"]] (ie setting > a >>> "type" param to mention that it's referring to a typed reference). It > has >>> the advantage of not requiring changes to the javacc parser but it has > more >>> chars to type for the user and is thus more complex for the user. >>> >>> Do you have an opinion? WDYT? Should I push what I have for now and make >>> changes later? >>> >>> Thanks >>> -Vincent