Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Make it simpler to configure XWiki when there's only 1 wiki

On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote: This seems to be something we may investigate to improve. I imagine that if nobody warn them, this is simply because the communication path is suboptimal. Maybe a more formal path, using an extension of the test report application could be an interesting solution.

> Thanks > -Vincent > >>> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Thomas Mortagne >>> &lt;thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: >>>> #-# [Since 5.0M2] >>>> #-# What to do when the requested wiki does not exist: >>>> #-# - 0: (default) serve the main wiki >>>> #-# - 1: display an error (customizable through wikidoesnotexist.vm or >>>> xwiki:XWiki.WikiDoesNotExist) >>>> # xwiki.virtual.failOnWikiDoesNotExist=0 >>>> >>>> So the option do exist. >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Thomas Mortagne >>>> &lt;thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: >>>>> Something already been decided to take care of this issue: by default >>>>> when your wiki cannot be found you are supposed to fallback on main >>>>> wiki. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe Edy did not had time to finish it but I'm pretty sure I see the >>>>> option about it in the xwiki.cfg.vm. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt; >>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi Denis and all, >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 17, 2013, at 12:20 AM, Denis Gervalle &lt;dgl(a)softec.lu&gt; wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Vincent, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Vincent Massol < > vincent(a)massol.net&gt; >>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi devs, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now that the virtual mode is on by default our users are having >>> troubles >>>>>>>> when they install 5.0.1. >>>>>>>> It's the second time in 2 days that I have to help someone. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The issue is that users will want to use URLs such: >>>>>>>> http://myhost/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And those URLs don't work anymore by default (which can be seen as > a >>>>>>>> regression). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So I'm proposing the following change for 5.0.2/5.1M1: >>>>>>>> * If there's only 1 wiki configured then always point to the main >>> wiki. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> WDYT? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This has already been discussed. I was in favor of that behavior, > but >>>>>>> Edouard mention a potential confusing example in: >>>>>>> http://markmail.org/message/ggjgqlfubjfyfxto >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, what has been decided is to provide a more explicit message, and >>> what I >>>>>>> have suggested is to have an easy way for an admin to create the >>> missing >>>>>>> server descriptor when that error occurs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You should read the thread about this change in detail before >>> proposing a >>>>>>> new solution. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for pointing me to this thread which I hadn't read at the > time. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've now read it and I see that nothing was done on this point that >>> you raised (as item 3) in that thread). Eduard said that it could be a >>> problem for someone having 2 wikis and removing 1 and then all URLs > would >>> redirect to that main wiki instead of noticing that the wiki he's > pointing >>> to has been removed. >>>>>> >>>>>> The difference with now and when that thread was written is the >>> feedback we're getting from users trying XWiki 5.0+. We already have > some >>> user who have stopped using XWiki because they found it too complex to >>> setup with this new virtual on by default and some others who spent > hours >>> scratching their heads to figure out why something worked before and is > no >>> longer working. >>>>>> >>>>>> So I really think we need to do something and quite fast (for 5.0.2 >>> and 5.1M1). >>>>>> >>>>>> Solution 1: >>>>>> ========= >>>>>> >>>>>> Check if there's only 1 wiki and default to the main wiki whatever > the >>> URL in that case. It's still preferable to get a user started on xwiki > and >>> more important than the use case found by Edy which is an edge case. >>>>>> >>>>>> Solution 2: >>>>>> ========= >>>>>> >>>>>> Since the default config is path-based, stop fallbacking to >>> domain-based when no descriptor is found and always fallback to the main >>> wiki instead. >>>>>> >>>>>> This option should solve the problem of getting started for users and >>> at the same time not have the problem raised by Edy. The only downside >>> would be users who had configured their subwiki in path-based (default) > but >>> with domains, which is not the normal way anyway: they should configure > it >>> in domain-based if they wish to use domains... >>>>>> >>>>>> My preference goes to 2. >>>>>> >>>>>> WDYT? Any other solution? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>> >>>>>> PS: The reason I suddenly took interest in this topic is because: >>>>>> * I've helped several users understand why they couldn't access their >>> wiki in 1 week (I can think of 3) >>>>>> * I've recoded the new wiki descriptor module and updated the new url >>> module to handle subwiki aliases and this recoded this algorithm. I'll > be >>> committing this soon now (just finishing some functional tests) >>>>>>