Re: [xwiki-devs] [UX] Edit Buttons Order

Time to be structured... Button naming is hard, especially if wanting to make a platform that is both ergonomic for normal users and for devs. (!!!) -- Thinking "ergonomy" does not mean the same for someone who is trying to bypass the understanding barreer (adoption) and someone who already have the understanding and who want the tool to be powerfull and efficient (fast and secure editing). -- Thinking the same world (ie publish) may not have the same meaning. -- Etc. So you have to make marketing before making UX... I think Emilie, Vincent, etc... should start the personas they want on the wiki (it is already made in fact but it only describe very large profiles that cover all type of possible users, having more real examples and if possible some priorities would help). Then we have to draw user actions schemas according to each persona. Saying what zone of the tool they generally use. For each function define how much each persona will potentially use it. Then each time you make a design or proposal think about it. Try to avoid having normal users lost as much as possible and at the same time try to make the tool as powerfull as possible for devs (keyboard shortcut only approach can be a good one ie). I'm sorry, to be honest I don't really like personas and others strucured anaylsis. I consider they are good for communication or to making people who are not used to UX enter in a UX perspective. For an UX designer it only make things more rigid wich not help creativity. Yet... I think they are to be used for heavy projects because if an eavy project is not structured people who work on it get lost and all lose coherence. I was not sure XWiki needed such heavy apparel. Yet because of collaboration complexity and because personas are good for communication I pushed for it. Caty just made me understand you want an ergonomy for both normal user and devs. Which is one of the most complicated thing I know. So I think we have to structure it. Structuring must not avoid us thinking out the bounds. But it should be here to help us to communicate, to help evryone to understand UX, to help to remember the problematics evrywhere, to help to create a good coherence. Also I repeat that we need marketing and management involved in it. UX is not only about ergonomy but also about emotion, strategic decisions, brand, spirit of the project, etc... I propose a vote about this and that someone take the management of this part (an UX designer or a manager) if XWiki SAS staff agree on that it has to be done. Thanks. 2009/9/4 Guillaume Lerouge <guillaume(a)xwiki.com>