23 Mar
2011
23 Mar
'11
3:42 p.m.
When I though about the mobile skin my main focus was the edit option (since
it's a wiki and maybe you want to improve something on the go, maybe attach
a photo taken with your phone's camera, etc). You can actually see some
functions at
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/MobileSkin/fun…
there the focus is put on edit and some "social" activity, but this needs to
be discussed with the community and see what direction we want to take.
Thanks,
Caty
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 16:01, Supreet Pal Singh <supreetpal(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Hey Jerome,
Thanx for the quick response.
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Jerome Velociter <jerome(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
are
functions
the
I did assume the lower bar to be static but I am not so clear about the
search bar is it static too or does it scroll with main content of the
page?
And I agree that giving searching a high priority is a reasonable approach
for making the skin more user friendly.
for
two
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Hi Supreet,
Great to see your interest in this project.
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Supreet Pal Singh <supreetpal(a)gmail.com
wrote:
> Hey Caty,
> Thanx :)
> Also,I went through those links and the sketches heres what I think:
>
> 1. Jerome's version does look better and simple but I feel it would
lack
the
> ease of use as most of the functions would be present in a separate
menu
> which could be reached through the
'+' . More clicks leads to a less
> intuitive UI and downgrades user experience. On the other hand,
Jerome's
version
gives a lighter and better look with only the main functions on
the
> homescreen. What needs to be looked into is whether the main options
sufficient to cater an average user such that we can ignore the 'more
clicks' aspect.
What I have also noticed is that Jerome's version does include all the
functions present on yours yet has an option '+' and even your version
has
> an empty function box so I am guessing there are/would be more that need
to be present or added.
Personally, I am in favor of your version of the skin because its
functions
serve as tabs for dynamic lower portion of the
screen, the static layer
of
> links to the various functions/screens makes it easy to navigate for user.
Couple of remarks :
* It's maybe not obvious, but in my sketch the lower bar is static, so
you don't have to scroll for it, it always remains at the bottom of
the user screen
* As I tried to explain in my comment, I tend to
think base use case
of a mobile version is about searching + reading content and comment +
annotations. I think edit is a marginal use case. Does not mean it
should not be doable, but IMHO it should not be considered a primary
action. OTOH a good and accessible search is a must have. That's why
in my version the search bar is first class citizen, at the top of the
page.
* The search would be a dynamic one, a bit in the spirit of the search
suggest available since XE 3.0 (best is to check the feature in the
version in 3.0 RC1, due today)
I am in favor of the building from scratch because for a mobile skin to
actually be worthwhile performance needs to be optimum but i would need
guidance on how to go about start writing the code.
2. Even I feel that the two scrolls on the comments page should be done
away
with instead it should take the whole page.
And I am new to XWiki and its development tools so I would be needing
your
help to get on track so please bare with my
newbie questions.
1. I have downloaded 'xwiki-enterprise-installer-generic-3.0' and would
be
following the instructions as given on
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/Skins , is this the
correct approach?
Yes it's an approach that would work.
Also I think the mobile skin is about dropping tons of stuff, so
another approach would be to create a new skin from scratch and build
it keeping only on what is essential (to have good performances).
> 2. What else can I do to get a better know how and integrate myself
more
in
That sounds like a good idea , i will get on to looking up other wikis.
Also
, I am planning to design a proposal for the skin after I have a look at
the
other wikis.
the project?
An idea could be you spend some time investigating how other wikis
have designed there mobile version (wikimedia one is interesting, but
I'm sure there are others) and refine on the design proposals Caty and
I made with your own ones, what do you think ?
Jerome
> Thanx
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 20:19, Supreet Pal Singh <
supreetpal(a)gmail.com
>wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Caty,
>>>
>>> Thanx for getting back to me on that , I am currently going through
the
>>
links but due to my University examination which are going to be held
over
>> the next 3 days I would be a little slow.
Also would you mind sharing
with
>>> me you IRC nick?
>>>
>>
>> The nick is evalica. Good luck with your exams.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Caty
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanx,
>>> Supreet
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
>>> valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Also check out:
>>>> http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/Skins
>>>> http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Skins
>>>> http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/Skins
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Caty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 22:09, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
>>>> valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Supreet,
>>>>>
>>>>> This project is really nice and can be approached from a variety of
>>>>> angles (we can have same functionality, but a different suitable
mobiles
of
>>>> skin; or we can think of a set o
limited functions to provide for
the
>>>>> mobile versions, etc).
>>>>>
>>>>> I've done some sketches with a vision of a limited-mobile
version >>>>> XWiki:
>>>>>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/MobileSkin
>>>> maybe this will give you some ideas.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Caty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 18:36, Supreet Pal Singh <
supreetpal(a)gmail.com>wroteote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> I am Supreet and I would like to participate in GSoC-2011. I am
mainly
>>>>> interested in contributing to
the project idea "Mobile Skin for
XWiki
>>>>>> Enterprise". I have been working on web development for the
past
>>>>> years
>>>>> and developed a couple of websites. I have a good knowledge of
>>>>> HTML,XHTML
>>>>> and CSS , I also know PHP and am learning Javascript. If someone
could
>>>> help
>>>> me regarding this , I would be really thankful.
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