29 Sep
2014
29 Sep
'14
3:28 p.m.
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Guillaume Lerouge <me(a)guillaumelerouge.com>
wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
in
a
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/File+Manager+Applicati…
IMO the toolbar's functionality is already covered by the 'Actions'
column
IMO it's exactly the same use case, the only difference is that the Actions
column was used as an intermediate solution because we didn't had bulk
actions in livetable (the ability to make multiple entity selection
(checkbox) - that's why we duplicate the entries on each row).
Thanks,
Caty
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Guillaume
Lerouge <guillaume(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
Delhumeau <
Hi Marius,
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea <
mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Guillaume Lerouge <
guillaume(a)xwiki.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi again,
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" > >
gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Eddy,
> >>
> >> 2014-09-25 11:59 GMT+02:00 Eduard Moraru <enygma2002(a)gmail.com>om>:
> >>
> >> > Hi devs,
> >> >
> >> > I`m not sure if we already have a discussion started on this
topic,
> but
> >> in
> >> > my opinion, it's long overdue. I see people start being confused
and
> >> > questions like this [1] start
to be asked.
> >> >
> >> > The new location of the Add menu in Flamingo is problematic IMO
for
a
> >> > various number of reasons:
> >> > - It falsely gives the impression that it adds page-related
entries
> > (i.e.
> > >> > related to the current page), due to its current location (i.e.
the
> >> page
> >> > content)
> >> > - It conflicts with AWM`s "Add new Entry" button
> >>
> >
>
> > More generally speaking, this is true for a lot of livetables. We
would
> > > need a generic "Create" button to be available when we
instantiate > > > livetable. This could be useful
for the wiki index page, for the
user
> directory, for all the AWM homepages...
I guess you like the files live table from the File Manager then :)
> > . Would be interesting to have such a
toolbar (with support for
custom
buttons) before the live table don't you think?
in the livetable. The only thing missing is the
'Create'
I'm not sure this is the same use case. I can see at least 3 reasons why:
1/ The "create" button would generate a new entry, whereas the
"actions"
column is for actions that are related to individual entries that already
exist
2/ The "actions" column can be removed by the livetable creator
3/ The toolbar would also be useful to handle bulk actions on pages such as
"delete selected entries" (as in the file manager)
Best,
Guillaume
Thanks,
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Caty
> Yes and yes :-)
>
> Guillaume
>
>
> > > Basically the button would let the user create a new item of the
same
> > type
> > > than the items displayed in the livetable. Right now we do this in
an
> > > ad-hoc fashion, so it would be
great to have a generic solution.
It's
also
> related to the automatic page name generation module (that we don't
have
in
> the core yet, though there's an extensions doing it
> <
> > >
> > > ).
> > >
> > > Guillaume
> > >
> > >
> > >> > - from my POV, looking at the page from a far, the new location
> looks
> > >> > completely randomly selected:
> > >> > -- It's not on the left/top (as left-to-right language
specific
> brains
> > >> are
> > >> > trained to follow)
> > >> > -- it's not exactly at the top either
> > >> > -- it's not at the right
> > >> > -- it's not next to the type of elements it creates (i.e.
next
to
> > >> > WIKI/SPACE/PAGE)
> > >> > -- it basically is almost in the middle of the screen
> > >> > - etc. (i.e. others that don`t come right now to my mind)
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> Personally, I like the fact that it is located near the Edit
button,
> > even
> > >> if it does not concern the current page. Because it groups the
most
> > basic
> > >> and useful actions that you need when you want to contribute:
EDIT,
ADD.
> >>
> >> To me, it makes sense.
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I`d like to open a discussion on this, since it's quite an
important
> >> aspect
> >> > of the UI and, due to it's shiny green color (which I like :)),
it`s
> hard
> >> > to miss.
> >> >
> >> > Is it just me who's resistant to change, or do others see a
problem
here
>> > with this as well?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Eduard
>> >
>> > ----------
>> > [1] http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/rqcxryksa2ckjhpm
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