Re: [xwiki-devs] [xwiki-users] [Investigation] User Statuses

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote: Yes, this was a pretty trivial use case :) Yes... Or something like Fabio: I need to prepare a technical presentation about XWiki, could you tell me where I can find material about the architecture? Sergiu: You can look here: http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/Architecture or here ... Yes. I see your point and actually I agree. When I thought about focused discussions I was thinking about a topic that doesn't need a wiki page but still needs feedback. But in this case we might be in the use case of "quick information gathering" Yes, but imagine that a project manager wants to communicate his statuses to the client he is working with. Yes, finally this boils down to be able to target a specific group of users, what I called "neighbourhood", which in this case they are client that somehow have access to a restricted part of the system (provided that this is feasible and that can be handled at the platform level) As Gregory said, we don't have to copy chatter. However I have always thought that user statuses implied a certain degree of communication, unless we are talking of a very simple usage where users, for example, only updates statuses with messages like "Today the weather is good!" If we think about the "Interesting material dissemination" use case, I see an interaction of this kind Fabio: I've find a very interesting paper about Semantic technologies. Check it out: http:... +-> Sergiu: You might also be interested in this: ... +-> Vincent: Nice. Let's create a page and collect these links: Drafts.InterestingSemanticTechnologies Well, this was more an indirect reply to Caty's remark where she was asking if "it is it worth it to make our own status casting or can we use directly the Twitter API?" I don't think that the full WYSIWYG should be available, that would be a little heavyweight from my point of view. I would say that a text area providing a completion mechanism for linking entities would be enough.

Yes, nice idea When I talk about neighborhoods I mean something that can also be defined by the connections users establlish and that are orthogonal to groups or workspaces. If we take the twitter model, this neighborhood is defined by the "users following me". What are you saying is actually what will happen in a context of a workspace where every status sent in the "Say something" widget of the Workspace is shown to all the members of the workspace (which, btw, is a (sub)wiki) The neighborhood I was talking about here was more a personal social network defined at the user level. Yep. Just a little remark, when you talk about "group of users" this can be by default the "users following me". And it could also be the default if not overridden. The point here is if we want to implement the "following/follower" mechanism or if we just say that every status update is broadcasted to all the users. The "following/follower" is a feature that allows the user to define his/her own social network that is orthogonal to existing groups and workspaces. Quick question: When you say that the target of the post is a page, wdym exactly? I understand quite well the other items, but what happens whey I send a status update to a page? Definitely. I agree. Well, unless I am missing something, this is the idea. I see replies appear à la Facebook though. Ok. I think that this needed only if we want to go to the "following/followers" way or if we want to target wiki-groups. If we think to workspaces, for example, they will be stand-alone (sub)wikis so every message sent in the context of a workspace will be broadcasted globally (i.e., to all the users of the workspace). On the other hand, why not creating a new component/API that exposes this kind of information and that can be used by the activity stream instead of putting it directly in the activity stream plugin? I think that the we should definitely start with the "simple" version that can be a version where everything is broadcasted globally and where the user can be helped with an auto-completion mechanism when posting references to pages. I think also that the user status reply is a very important feature that should be taken into account. I was thinking more about neighbourhoods (global wiki, groups, users, or "followers") Thanks, Fabio top http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Macros/ActivityMacro>gt;, user uses discussions at: http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/UserStatusRequirem… http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/UserStatusUseCases the http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/UserStatusScrap the future? to page? http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/AvatarsProposa… _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs