As I discussed with Guillaume before he send the proposal (but he felt
it was to much for his need) the best IMO is to add the concept cache
directory in Environment and conf file. It's not temp files and it's
not really permanent files either. Basically I want to do that since a
while now mostly because I would like to be able to setup the Debian
package by default to put those files in /var/cache/xwiki/.
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 7:13 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea
<mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
On Feb 13, 2015 8:39 PM, "Denis Gervalle"
<dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
Hi Guillaume,
1) -1, this break the FHS which definitely
separate caches from permanent
data, and for a couple of good reason, you may want to put them on
different partition, using faster disk, or even in memory disk. So I do
not
find very clever to put all cache files into the
permanent directory. What
would be the purpose of a temporary directory if it was not for that
purpose.
I agree with Denis. Caches are temporary files for me, but temporary
doesn't mean they have to be deleted after each restart.
Thanks,
Marius
2) +1, but with some way to force the purge, so
annoying problem still get
a solution
3) +1, it would be very helpful to have faster startup when testing. I
would not put the file into the cache in the distribution, but in a skin
folder or something, and it could simply copy the file in place of
generating it for the default skin. So this could work on any
distribution,
and it could also solve your temporary folder
issue.
wdyt ?
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau <
gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Currently, XWiki is quite long to start, and this is mainly because of
the
> LESS compiler which generates the CSS file
of the skin.
>
> Fortunately, we cache the results of the compilation in the LESS cache,
> which is stored in the file-system (this is important).
>
> Some actions can be done to make the launch quicker:
>
> 1 - Not purge the cache at startup.
> The idea is to keep the cache of the previous launch of XWiki, so LESS
> would have nothing to compile anymore. This does not solve the first
launch
> issue, but it is a great progress anyway.
The disadvantage of this is
that
> restarting XWiki will not solve any issue
related to a bad cached file
(ex:
> a buggy CSS file stored in the cache will
still be there after a
restart.
> The only way to fix this is to re-save the
buggy LESS resource).
>
> Note that this behaviour can easily be changed by modifying a config
file:
>
>
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/LESS+Module#HCacheStra…
>
> 2 - During the build of XE, run an integration test that performs a
simple
> view request to XWiki in order to make the
LESS compiler builds the CSS
> file and pushes it into the cache. After the integration test, we just
copy
> the generated LESS cache file into the
Jetty/HSQLDB distribution, and so
> when you launch XWiki from this distribution, you use the pre-generated
> cache.
>
> Of course it could only work for our Jetty distributions that users test
> locally. It will not solve the issue on production servers. But it is
> already good that a user have a good impression by starting XWiki
quickly
> on her computer.
>
> I have made a proof of concept on a branch [1] and the thing is working
> well. The first request to XWiki is really faster.
>
> The only blocking point I have now is that the current cache directory
is
> currently configured to be the temporary
directory. Instead, I need to
use
> a directory from the distribution (where I
can put my pre-generated
cache
> files). I have solved this locally by
setting an absolute path to my
"data"
> folder [2], but it is not clean.
>
> Thomas suggested me to configure all the caches to use the "permdir"
> directory, which actually is the "data" directory in the case of our
jetty
> > distributions, and so it does the job.
> >
> > So the vote is for the following proposal:
> > 1 - move the cache files to permdir
> > 2 - do not purge the LESS cache at startup (by default)
> > 3 - add a new module that pre-generate the LESS cache file to make the
> > first XWiki launch faster
> >
> > Here is my +1.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > [1]
> >
https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise/compare/feature-datalesscache
> > [2]
>
>
http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10879?focusedCommentId=85369&page=co…
>
>
> > --
> > Guillaume Delhumeau (gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
> > Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
> > Committer on the
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