28 Nov
2016
28 Nov
'16
1:04 p.m.
Hi Guillaume,
Note that I’ve renamed the thread since this is hijacking the original thread.
I just raised this point as a side note. Didn’t meant to discuss it in this thread
originally.
For context, Guillaume is replying to:
“
Side note/wish: I’d love a shortcut key that you’d press to make the current user advanced
+ show hidden docs. And if you press it again it does the opposite.
“
On 21 Nov 2016, at 15:17, Guillaume Delhumeau
<guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Vincent: why not introducing a "Developer" user, in addition of the
"Admin", in the Jetty/HSQLDB package? It could even be done on snapshot
versions only, since this is what developers use the most.
I don’t like this option at all.
Several users have asked about showing hidden docs. This is a common use case and it’s not
a “developer”’ feature IMO. It’s actually not a feature for any category of users (user,
admin, developer) but more a feature for advanced users. Some users have asked for this in
jira or the list (for example one use case that was asked was to be able to click on a
filter/link/button when on AllDocs page to list all pages displayed in the LT).
I'm not in favor of introducing a shortcut key
because it would concern
every users who might engage the shortcut by mistake, resulting in a WTF
effect.
I disagree. Shortcuts need to be a combination of keys so that they cannot be done by
mistake ofc. All apps have tons of shortkeys. Why is that? Because they’re useful! :)
Moreover, we already have too many shortcuts IMO, and
they can be
in conflict with browser's ones (think Ctrl+G for example).
I disagree that we have too many shortcuts. Quite the opposite, I’d love to have a lot
more. For ex in order to be able to navigate quickly (navigate to home, navigate to
alldocs page, etc).
I believe a "Developer" user is what we
really need.
Actually that wouldn’t solve the problem I had either since it would mean having to
navigate to the user profile, make the change, go back to where you were, check the hidden
docs, then go back again to your user profile, put back the profile again and navigate
back… Doesn’t work!
I’m 100% sure that we need a shortcut for this (ie an advanced feature) but we could also
need something more visible (I’m not saying that a shortcut is enough but for me it’s the
minimum).
Thanks
-Vincent
Thanks,
2016-10-17 13:52 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>et>:
>
>> On 17 Oct 2016, at 12:38, Marius Dumitru Florea <
> mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> valicac(a)gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> A simple change that could improve the experience for newcomers would be
>>> that the default Admin user to have a simple type.
>>>
>>> One of the problems new users have is that they have too many options in
>>> the Edit menu and this can be confusing.
>>>
>>> The downside is that it will add an additional step for
> developers/testers
>>> to change the user type back (or at least until we provide a Developer
>>> user/profile).
>>>
>>> Also we would need to make sure the documentation is up to date and fix
> the
>>> tests.
>>>
>>> WDTY?
>>>
>>
>> You're talking about the jetty+hsqldb distribution (the "ZIP
Package"
>> available on the download page)? Is this the most used / downloaded
>> distribution? Because the other distributions don't have the Admin user,
>> see
>> http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/
> DistributionWizard#HAdminuser
>> .
>
> Is the Admin user that is created a simple user?
>
> Two options:
> 1) either he is, in which case this gives another argument for creating
> the Admin user as a simple user for the HSQLDB/Jetty packaging
> 2) either he’s not (ie he’s created as an advanced one) and in this case
> we should fix that in 2 places (in the HSLQDB/Jetty packaging + in the code
> that creates the Admin user for the other packagins).
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>> Thanks,
>> Marius
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I've created http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XE-1580
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Caty
>