Hi,
On Aug 21, 2009, at 8:26 PM, Alexandru Cismaru wrote:
Hi.
@Jerome:
I thought that the user doesn't need to manage more than 5 wikis,
it can
be changed :).
@Vincent:
Yes, with notifications it will become truly useful... For now you
can
only see the content of the wikis and access some pages really easy.
It is a
tool that is supposed to buy you time and make it easier for you to
manage
wikis. There are still many things to improve, but I think it can
actually
become a nice tool that you use with pleasure and still makes you more
productive.
There are many similitudes between XWikiFox and XEclipse, but I
think it's
a good idea to let the users access wiki data in as many ways as
possible.
So... they can both exist, right?
Actually the initial goal of XEclipse is to be a productivity tool so
exactly what you describe for XWikiFox :)
My vision is to make XEclipse also receive events and be available in
the system tray and thus show notification popups when changes happen.
Re whether both can exist or not, it's only going to be a matter of
how many contributors/committers maintain them. If you're volunteering
for maintaining XWikiFox on the long run then indeed it can exist for
as long as you maintain it :)
That said, it's a good question since we can ask ourselves whether
joining forces wouldn't be better. Right now for example we don't have
many people working on XEclipse unfortunately even though it's really
promising.
Another aspect is that XEclipse is written in java so it makes a bit
easier to maintain and extend it (for example it's easy to integrate
Thomas's remote events in it whereas it's more complex with XWikiFox
since it's written in JS and listening to a jgroup channel in JS might
not be as easy as in Java).
Last aspect: not everyone is using FF and it's a pity that those who
don't cannot access the XWikiFox features. They can use XEclipse
though since it works everywhere.
IMO we need to think about a direction for XWikiFox that wouldn't be
the one that XEclipse is following.
Let's see what others think.
To finish, as I told you on IM, I really like the UI you've done and I
think you've done a good job with XWikiFox. I blame myself for not
having spendtenough time to think about it at the beginning of the SOC
project and playing the joykiller. So don't be deterred by what I said
and keep working on it to polish it. It's very promising :)
Thanks for your work
-Vincent
I think it's a good idea to merge the
functionalities of these two
extensions (XWikiFox and FoxWiki), and it surely can be done.
When you get an error like "Sorry we couldn't retrieve any data",
it means
that the ajax call failed (maybe the wiki is dead for the moment, or
the url
is wrong). The extension is not that user friendly for the moment,
but it's
an important aspect and the future improvements should focus on this.
Thank you Jerome and Vincent for your prompt feedback.
Alex