14 Sep
2009
14 Sep
'09
2:19 p.m.
So basicly you have a set of user that are used to the old way. Theses
users will see that one day, the order of the buttons change and they
get lost during a few days, cliking on the old places of buttons.
UX Design field, and especially ergonomy are full of "historical
reasons", things that have not been changed because of it. I remember
of such sort of thing about keyboards ie.
Another example is some dyctalos that always use anachronic versions
of MS Word on old computers because they are used of it.
An historical reasons is a good thing for user that are used of
something. Evrything depends if there is an impact on new users and
further generations.
So if there is a further generation of users on toucan consider that
they will be penalised by the historical reasons.
World is already so full of anachronysmes... ;-)
2009/9/14 Anca Luca <ancapaula.luca(a)xwiki.com>om>:
Ecaterina Valica wrote:
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:04, Anca Luca
<ancapaula.luca(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Yes.
but only in the current context, when we _are_ actually fixing _all_ these
issues, by building a new skin, otherwise I don't see why we build a new skin
and not fix the one we have.
Now I'm not trying to justify the new skin by not merging the fixes in the old
one, it's just that this is the kind of annoying change and, since we are
dramatically improving everything in a new skin, I don't see why annoy users and
apply these disruptive changes in the old skin too.
just my 0.2 cents...
Thanks,
Anca
Ecaterina Valica wrote:
We agreed that this order caused confusion between some users and was better
to be changed.
You're saying something like: don't change it (even if it's broken), just
because I'm used to it. Hi,
Because we want to make a standard from vertical-aligned form, this means
the buttons should be left-ordered with the most important action first.
This should be changed also in Toucan and Albatross skin, not only just
in
Colibri.
I just noticed the change made on
all skins, and I don't find it
comfortable to
have this change in toucan because:
I think, as in the case of titles policy, that we're building a new, better
skin
and changes like this should be in the new skin. I find it disturbing to
have
different order for buttons than I was used to, and, although I agree to
get
used to it in a new skin, I don't find it appropriate that I have to get
used to
it on the old skin too.
I think users should be able to preserve their beloved skin which they're
used
to if they want, including buttons order.
The change was made for the benefit of all
users.
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Caty motivated this change across all skins with
the fact that form design
(alignments, buttons order, et all) it's a platform standard and platform
changes are applied to all skins.
I think these standards are UI/UX/ergonomy standards and they should only
be
preserved across a skin. On the very same platform one could build a right
aligned skin, it doesn't impact the platform in any way, I don't see why we
would impose this as a "platform thing".
This is the type of annoying change for a user (I keep going to the wrong
side
of the screen with my mouse) and, while I'm ok with getting used to it on a
new
skin, I find it slightly frustrating on the skin I was used to.
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