Re: [xwiki-devs] The future of the Spaces macro in the context of Nested Spaces/Documents

Hello all, The final decision for this thread will also affect Notes application, which uses Space Index macro.

So please consider this thing too. See http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/NOTES-2. I've already thought of a solution, but the final decision from here will influence a lot the fix . Thanks, Gabriela *Gabriela Smeria* *Web Developer* gabriela.smeria(a)xwiki.com skype: smeria.gabriela On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < valicac(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea < > mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: > > > Everyone seems to agree, so far, that the spaces macro can be replaced > > by the document tree macro. We'll have to decide whether we keep this > > macro in the Index Application or we move it to contrib (so that > > anyone that wants to use it can install it). I guess we can leave it > > in the Index Application for 7.x. > > > > As for showing navigation information (i.e. the document tree) on the > > dashboard, most of you seem to find it useful. My only worry is that > > we'll provide multiple ways to do the same thing: > > > > * document index tree > > * breadcrumb tree (probably) > > * dashboard document tree > > > > Moreover, Caty's initial design of the Home page for Flamingo didn't > > include the spaces macro > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Skin4xHomepage . > > There may be more important information to display on the home page > > instead of the document tree (which you can access from the Document > > Index). > > > > The focus of Flamingo proposal was not the Homepage. > I've included the macro in the proposals for Workspaces > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/WorkspaceHomepage/H… > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/WorkspaceHomepage/W… > with their main purpose as light navigation. > > Still these proposals are focused for the Groupware Flavor. In > documentations the Trees are very important. > > I think the breadcrumb tree will be enough for a Groupware Flavor, but we > will need to test it. > > Thanks, > Caty > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Eduard Moraru > > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > IMO, we can use the document tree macro to achieve both usecases of the > > > previous documents and spaces macros, so no need to have more than 1 > > > navigation macro for this. > > > > > > +1 for (2) > > > > > > Re (3), we could wait and see how the tree navigation works out and, if > > > users find that to be easy enough, we could eventually do (3). For now > > > however, having some navigation in the dashboard is in line with the > > > "overview" nature of the dashboard itself, so I think we could keep it. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Eduard > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Gabriela Smeria < > > gabriela.smeria(a)xwiki.com&gt; > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Hello Vincent, > > >> > > >> I'm +0 for (3), because as you said, sol5+sol6 it's more likely to be > > >> chosen, but I think this will not be sufficient. Displaying a (future) > > >> Document Tree Macro on Dashboard it will help a lot the users to find > > out > > >> where are the documents localized in the hierarchy or at least have a > > big > > >> picture about it, without entering every page and check the > breadcrumb. > > >> And they can't use the Go To functionality if they don't know > previously > > >> where the document is localized. > > >> But that's just my opinion. > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Gabriela > > >> > > >> *Gabriela Smeria* > > >> *Web Developer* > > >> gabriela.smeria(a)xwiki.com > > >> skype: smeria.gabriela > > >> > > >> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:42 PM, vincent(a)massol.net < > vincent(a)massol.net > > > > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > Hi Gaby, > > >> > > > >> > On 7 Aug 2015 at 10:40:51, Gabriela Smeria ( > gabriela.smeria(a)xwiki.com > > >> > (mailto:gabriela.smeria@xwiki.com)) wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > Hello Marius, > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea < > > >> > > mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > Hi guys, > > >> > > > > > >> > > > The wiki home page displays, by default, the list of spaces that > > >> exist > > >> > > > in the wiki (hidden or not, depending on the user profile > > settings). > > >> > > > This is done using the > > >> > > > > http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Spaces+Macro > > . > > >> As > > >> > > > we have started to work on adding support for nested > > >> spaces/documents, > > >> > > > we need to review the purpose of this macro. Is it still > relevant > > to > > >> > > > display a list of spaces when there is a tree hierarchy? It only > > >> makes > > >> > > > sense if you want to display just the list of direct children > of a > > >> > > > given node. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I see the following options: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > (1) Display the list of top level nodes (space/document) on the > > wiki > > >> > > > home page. No tree. The rationale is that loading the tree (even > > if > > >> > > > done lazy) is more expensive that displaying a static list of > > links. > > >> > > > For this we can extend the Spaces Macro with a parameter to > > specify > > >> > > > the parent node. When this parameter is not specified the macro > > will > > >> > > > list the top level nodes. (In the context of nested documents we > > >> could > > >> > > > introduce a new macro Document List instead) > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > -0 for (1), because even though it takes less time to display a > > list of > > >> > top > > >> > > level nodes, I don't think it's achieving the concept of Nested > > Spaces > > >> > > (Documents), since what will be shown it is what is shown now, > > without > > >> > the > > >> > > Nested Spaces concept implemented. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > (2) Display the tree hierarchy on the wiki home page, using > > >> > > > > > >> > > > http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Document+Tree+Macro > > >> > > > .Of course, the tree will be lazy loaded, and only the top level > > >> nodes > > >> > > > are displayed initially. If we do this then we can probably > > deprecate > > >> > > > the Spaces Macro and advice the users to use the Document Tree > > Macro > > >> > > > instead. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > +1 for (2), because this is what we want in the end, to see (or at > > >> least > > >> > to > > >> > > have the possibility to visualize) a hierarchy of Nested Spaces > > >> > (Documents) > > >> > > > >> > See also my proposal (3) in my previous answer on this thread. > > >> > > > >> > WDYT about it? > > >> > > > >> > Thanks > > >> > -Vincent > > >> > > > >> > > > WDYT? > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Thanks, > > >> > > > Marius > > >> > > > >> > > Thanks, > > >> > > Gabriela