7 Dec
2010
7 Dec
'10
9:03 p.m.
Hi Evalica,
Thanks for answer.
I added some questions inline. ^^
This is more questions to make thinking that questions that need an answer.
Have a nice day
Thibaut DEVERAUX
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2010/12/7 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com>
Yes, I understand that "Having Today, Yesterday, dd MM is the best solution
to separate content."
The question is more : Why the content should be separated ?
Ok so it is as it to keep global XWiki ergonomics standards. Nice.
I understand in the case that there is nothing else, but in the case there
is a message ?
So this is more complicated that the simple modification I have done to have
a inline single look. Anyway, I'm pro having an as much similar formating as
possible to make eyes scan easier.
Yes... Icons are faster to read that text yet can't be here without the text
or something that learn user about what they mean. This is why text is
sometime doubled with icones, in general.
As I told it before, I'm wondering about adding the information :
- Adding text + icones ?
- adding nothing when there is an user written message only adding text.
It is as always a dilema : rich Vs simple. I'm generaly a pro-simple since
each people building something has an incontrolable envy of making things
too rich. So softwares are generally to rich. This makes them, in fact,
complicated because of user over-information. Too many "but what is this ?"
makes the user feeling he is not understanding the software. Yet this is
just generalities so there not an unique answer here. Evrything is a matter
of gobal ergonomics strategy.
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/UserStatusPrototype
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On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 01:46, Thibaut DEVERAUX
<thibaut.deveraux(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
There is the possibility of making people able to see content directly in
timeline that could be another idea for the futur if needed.
I love this feature !
*Stage wisper, a bit of inspiration for further developments *:
Will it be possible to use thoose streams as a global wiki's news stream
?
Including comments, followed page modifications,
goup exchanges, etc.
Like
in Buddypress for example.
http://design-keys.org/activity/
http://buddypress.org/community/activity/
Hi Thibaut,
Thanks for your message.
This User Status proposal is meant to be integrated with the existing
Activity Macro
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Activity+Macro
"The Activity Macro listens to the following: create, edit, delete events
for pages, comments, attachments and annotations."
Nice ! *
*Going further, a few time ago during UX workshops we imagined an "all is
manageable within the timeline" way of having regular user interacting
with
content.
The use case is simple : it is to be used when the user want to see what
is
new today on the network and to comment the new
content
- see what new today on the timeline
- interact with content staying into the timeline
- continue reading what's new today on the timeline
Here is the document :
http://www.slideshare.net/thibautdeveraux/design-platform-v2-proposition,
going to "l'atelier" (in french sorry, it is a long time I'm supposed
to
make an english version of this concept with enhanced graphics for
sharing,
always need more time ^^)
The limit of such system is the javascript amount a page can handle
before
becoming to slow. Yet it may give some
inspiration.
*
About the UX of the proposition* :
I like it, it sounds good as it is keeped simple.
Maybe a few questions about details :
1/
Is it necessary to add the yesterday, today, title between posts ?
http://screencast.com/t/RJsu44z7bUSG
There is already a "posted xx time ago" and the most immediatly usefull
for
the user may be more the last post he have read
before than the day it
was
posted.
The information spawn over all the history and with
http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XE-748
we will be able to browse continuously through time.
Having Today, Yesterday, dd MM is the best solution to separate content.
See http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/
2/
Is there a special reason to have changed the order of the "send,
privacy,
references" icones that are used left to
right on facebook, to right to
left
here ?
Here : http://screencast.com/t/dhpNDfZ1
Facebook : http://screencast.com/t/Gk2BhGld3
There is no shame to use the same configuration. ^_^' Being like
ergonomics
users are used to is a good thing.
XWiki has the Vertical forms standard so it's normal to have the button
placed in the left, see
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Standards/FormVerticalUsage
3/
Why is there "140" printed on the top right corner ?
http://screencast.com/t/gOjv4WGe5VVQ
Is it because messages are limited to 140 caracters ? I don't really
understand why there should be such a limitation on wikis that can be
used
for project management, where people may have
important things to share
and
explain ? Also, having text only small boxes is
already limitating lengh
of
90% of the messages people naturally enter.
This can be changed or remove.
4/
Why is it always printed "changed status" ?
http://screencast.com/t/cBqylv4X
Is status notion is a concept that fit with all the use case of this
feature
? For example what if people are not be thinking they are updating a
status,
yet are thinking they are sharing a message with the community ?
Also, the act of seeing a small text right near an other user portrait
let
people know this is a message from this persone.
This may be enough
information, why specifing ?
The only reason I see for specifing it, is when there is an usage for it.
For example if this is a link to a specific context zone of the wiki
where
the action took place. it may be a groupe or the
user profile.
Being part of the Activity Stream we need to have a separation between
actions, see
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ActivityStreamV31
5/
About the way items are displayed in a page creation case :
http://screencast.com/t/ue1Ogbd5gf
Why changing the order of message items between a user message case and a
page creation case ?
http://screencast.com/t/oDJij00HEN
I would let's the user read the flow in the same way for each item. Eye
habits.
Example : http://screencast.com/t/nxWatyS9g
The Activity Stream is page centric and this layout allow multiple entries
for a page location, see
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/ActivityStream…
6/
Why adding again the information about the message type near the portrait
?
It is already in text and, anyway, I'm not
sure the user need it at all.
http://screencast.com/t/9UdhOgB4uR7j
http://screencast.com/t/ACMMR0S15Q
Icons are more representative than words. It's much more easy to scan for
icons than to read the text. That's why the message is duplicated: in order
to assure fast scanning but keep the accessibility and learnability.
Here is a proposal that may be simpler. Of course it depends on the
answers
to my question because I can't know evrything
about the specifications :
http://screencast.com/t/DNq3MVwLU
Have a nice day
Thibaut DEVERAUX
Tel : +33 (0)6 75 51 20 80
thibaut.deveraux(a)gmail.com
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2010/11/30 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/UserStatusProposal
Hi,
Please provide feedback for this User Status proposal:
Other references:
* Proposal Code:
* Mail
[Investigation] User Statuses:
http://markmail.org/thread/65j5pc2ymmntujt3
Thanks,
Caty
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