22 Nov
2016
22 Nov
'16
3:40 p.m.
2016-11-22 15:25 GMT+01:00 Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>et>:
for
This is the upcoming knowledge-base flavor. But I have always considered
XWiki to be more than that. We have put a lot of effort to create:
- Application Within Minutes (it makes me thing about Microsoft Access)
- File Manager Application (there is Cloud solutions for that)
- XPoll Application
- Task Manager Application
- Ideas Application
and so on...
Anyway I've read (partially) the other threads about this subject and I
understand the counter-arguments now. I don't fully agree but I can
understand.
Thanks,
Guillaume
On 22 Nov 2016, at 15:03, Guillaume Delhumeau
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guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
2016-11-22 14:39 GMT+01:00 Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>et>:
>
>> On 22 Nov 2016, at 14:18, Guillaume Delhumeau <
> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>>
>> 2016-11-22 13:16 GMT+01:00 Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>et>:
>>
>>>
>>>> On 22 Nov 2016, at 12:13, Guillaume Delhumeau <
>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi everybody.
>>>>
>>>> Today I would like to speak about an issue that annoys me for years.
>>>>
>>>> We are working on a tool whose one of the objectives is to stop
>>> scattering
>>>> information in multiple places. It's even the main argument
explained
> in
>>>> the video integrated on the home page of XWiki:
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QTWrZ7OfzI.
>>>>
>>>> But on the other hand, we, developers of XWiki, do the opposite in
>>>> practice. We discuss on mailing lists that are archived on Markmail,
we
>>>> report issues on Jira and we do
investigations on design.xwiki.org,
> and
>>> I
>>>> don't even count Github.
>>>
>>> Honestly I don’t see the relationship between the tool we develop and
> how
>>> it’s developed. These are completely separate things!
>>>
>>
>> We develop a tool that centralize information and we don't use it to
>> centralize our own informations, except documentation.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Using a car is pretty easy but creating one is hard. That’s normal and
>>> expected :)
>>>
>>
>> Yes but if you also create a tool to help you creating a car and you
> don't
>> use it yourself,
>
> XWiki is not a tool to help develop software. It can be used for some
> parts of the software development process (the documentation part, the
> requirements part, etc). But for example it won’t help you store your
> sources files and it won’t help you develop your Java Code (your IDE
will
though).
I completely agree and there is no discord on this.
But I still believe that if we promote our tool as a better alternative emails and we keep sending brainstorm, votes,
news, we're not giving a
consistent signal.
I’m not sure I agree that a wiki (xwiki or any wiki) should replace email.
I see a wiki as a way to extract pure knowledge from their temporary
places (irc, mailing lists, etc) into a place where it can be aggregated
and augmented, representing the sum of knowledge on a topic.