1 Oct
2014
1 Oct
'14
5:56 p.m.
Updated again the Contributing page for better visibility:
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Contributing#HSponsoringissues
Thanks,
Eduard
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Eduard Moraru <enygma2002(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Thanks to Vincent, we have installed the Jira plugin and we should be good
to go.
Issues on jira.xiwki.org now have a "Sponsor This!" section and a link to
start sponsoring that issue.
The only downside is that instead of having 1 XWiki project for all
issues, we have 1 project for each Jira project on jira.xwiki.org. This
means that, as issue will be sponsores/promoted, we`ll start seeing XWiki
Platform [1], XWiki Enterprise, XWiki Commons, etc... as different projects
on the FreedomSponsors.org website. Also, every contrib project will have
their own FreedomSponsors.org project, just like they do on jira.xwiki.org
(e.g. Poll Application [2] for which we proposed an issue as a test).
However, if you want to look for all xwiki related issues on
FreedomSponsors.org, you can use the search feature (look for "xwiki") [3]
and it will work (match) because all projects (including contrib ones) have
the same issue tracker URL base (jira.xwiki.org) and official site (
xwiki.org).
I have also updated the Contributing [4] page and listed the sponsoring of
issues as an option there, under the Testing section.
Let's see how this goes and don`t hesitate to try an promote this wherever
possible ;)
Thanks,
Eduard
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[1] https://freedomsponsors.org/project/276/
[2] https://freedomsponsors.org/project/277/
[3] https://freedomsponsors.org/search/?s=xwiki
[4] http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Contributing#HTesting
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea <
mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
+1 to try it out.
Thanks,
Marius
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Eduard Moraru <enygma2002(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
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Hi devs,
Reviving this thread since I`ve stumbled upon this again while looking
for
Fundry alternatives after a user asked on IRC for
ways to donate to the
XWiki project.
The stats [1] on this website look promising and, since the vote was
positive on this matter, I suggest we go ahead and install the JIRA
plugin
[2] that adds the link to sponsor an issue.
While going again through the website`s documentation, it`s very clear
that
this is not a way to sponsor the project, but
only to sponsor particular
issues and the developer that implements them. This way we have no
issues
with the lack of an XWiki foundation for
receiving money, since it's the
particular dev that gets the money.
Also, this is not a complete solution to the sponsorship/donations
issue,
as other solutions can be implemented along side
it (e.g. actually
donating
to the project, maybe through a foundation), but
it is IMO a good first
step into accepting financial contributions from the community.
As an added bonus, since contrib projects can use XWiki's jira as well,
this means that contrib projects can also benefit from this and have
sponsored issues.
Thanks,
Eduard
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[1] https://freedomsponsors.org/stats/
[2] https://github.com/freedomsponsors/freedomsponsors-jira-plugin
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Eduard Moraru <enygma2002(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> From Vincent's link[1], I see that this is intended, as it is actually
the
> system's philosophy which is OK in
theory, but it is also obvious that
it
> can be abused.
>
> "Once the issue is officially solved the sponsors can verify whether
their
> problem is really gone (according to the
established criteria) and pay
the
> developer - otherwise they can just walk
away.
>
> *This is very important*: there is nothing on the system forcing
anybody
> to pay anything. There are no escrows and no
pre-paid credits
whatsoever.
> This is not an implementation detail – it’s
by philosophy.
>
> The whole thing is *voluntary* to begin with. We want sponsors to pay
the
> developers because they feel grateful for
their work, tipically after
their
> problem is actually solved."
>
> Of course, if they did try to handle this issue technically, it would
have
> been pretty complex to decide when the task
was complete according to
the
> sponsor's intention and established
criteria. I guess they preferred to
> have a (hypothetical) frustrated dev that was expecting a payoff for an
> issue rather than having a (hypothetical) frustrated sponsor that
payed for
> something that was not quite what he wanted
:)
>
> Anyway, I still think it would not hurt to try it and see how it goes.
>
> Thanks,
> Eduard
>
> ----------
> [1] http://blog.freedomsponsors.org/about/
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
>
>> Isn't there a control mecanism once the person ready to fix it says
"start
>> working on it" ?
>> At that point if the site does not block the money then it's risky
>>
>> Ludovic
>>
>>
>> 2013/3/5 Eduard Moraru <enygma2002(a)gmail.com>
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Yes, I really like the fact that it's integrated with jira and that
>> > everything is contextualized.
>> >
>> > However, I am a bit reserved about the success it is going to have,
>> since,
>> > AFAIU, there is nothing stopping people from spam-funding issues
they
>> want
>> > fixed, but in the end decide that they are not going to fund any of
the
>> > work that has been done. Hope that
will not be the case and that
devs
>> will
>> > be aware of this possibility and will primarily do it for the fun :)
>> >
>> > Anyway, I like the idea and I`m definitely +1 for trying it out.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Eduard
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
>> valicac(a)gmail.com
>> > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > This seams very similar to Sergiu's ideas some time ago when
we
>> tried
>> > > > with Fundry.
>> > >
>> > > Indeed, the idea is the same but the implementation different and
I
>> think
>> > > the link from the jira issue can make a difference.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > > -Vincent
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks,
>> > > > Caty
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Thomas Mortagne
>> > > > <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>> > > >> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Vincent Massol <
vincent(a)massol.net
>> >
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Thomas Mortagne <
>> > thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>> Looks interesting.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> But who get the money exactly ?
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Anyone who implements what's asked.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> +1 then
>> > > >>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> See http://blog.freedomsponsors.org/about/ for details.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> -Vincent
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>> Can contributors be assigned to issues
>> > > >>>> or is it only for the project itself (in that case
it's not
>> going to
>> > > >>>> be very simple since we don't have any entity yet)
?
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Vincent Massol <
>> vincent(a)massol.net>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >>>>> Hi devs,
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> WDYT of doing like Jenkins is doing and adding a
"Sponsor
this
>> > > issue" button on JIRA?
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> For example:
>> > > >>>>> https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-9030
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> When you click it redirects to
>> > > >>>>>
>> > >
>> >
>>
http://www.freedomsponsors.org/core/login/?next=/core/issue/sponsor%3Ftrack…
> >
> >>>>>
> > > >>>>> You can check
> > > >>>>> http://www.freedomsponsors.org/
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> It could be interesting to try it and see how it
goes.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> WDYT?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Thanks
> > > >>>>> -Vincent
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> > > >>
> > > >>
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