6 Feb
2014
6 Feb
'14
10:31 a.m.
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau
<gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Denis, as you said, the new subwiki has the same
rights as the main one.
But in 5.2.x, with the old Workspaces Application, the new subwiki had also
the view right given to xwiki:XWiki.XWikiAllGroup.
In other words, any global user had the right to view the new subwiki.
Since 5.3, the rights are only set for local users AND members of the
subwiki. Which means that a global user who is not a member does not have
the right to see the subwiki (which is a bit strange, because Guest user
might have the right to see it meanwhile a global user does not).
Conclusion: the default rights in a subwiki are not the same before 5.3 and
after.
My question is: what should we decide?
IMO the main issue here is that guest can have more rights than a user
and we should really improve that instead (which is strictly about
rights and not really related to wiki module).
Louis-Marie
2014-02-05 18:43 GMT+01:00 Denis Gervalle <dgl(a)softec.lu>lu>:
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Thomas Mortagne
I am not sure to understand want you exactly want
agreement on, and what
you expect to fix.
I just tried setting up new wikis in 5.4, and I have not found anything
related to a workspace template or whatever.
The DW properly setups the new wiki with similar rights to the main wiki:
XWikiAllGroup has view, edit... and XWikiGuest has view
So I do not get the point of this thread for 5.4.1, sorry.
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau <
gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
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2014-01-31 Marius Dumitru Florea <mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>om>:
openness.
I agree with Edy. View right should be on by
default and the subwiki
admins
> should be able to restrict it.
>
> Thanks,
> Marius
>
> On Jan 30, 2014 7:53 PM, "Eduard Moraru" <enygma2002(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Well, the idea of Workspaces was to promote collaboration and >
Joining a workspace was about gaining the ability to collaborate
(edit),
> while viewing the contents by default was
about the "wiki principle".
The
> > idea was just like in the main wiki, you are a (new?) user who can > > everything that others do (by default)
but can only edit things you
own
> or
> > that have been granted edit access to. Why should other wikis be
> different,
> > when it is supposed to be an ecosystem?
> > How would it feel like to be a new user in a wiki where you can not
see
> any
> > existing or new documents/spaces unless you`re explicitly given
access
to?
>
> I`m not sure it's such a great idea to lock stuff up by default in a
wiki.
> You do this kind of stuff with other types of software, but, by
default,
> it
> > should not be done with a wiki.
> > Note: We`ll not get in a discussion about edit rights being on by
> default,
> > AFAIK this being another wiki principle (more or less).
> >
> > Of course, being an enterprise wiki, we should have the
> > *possibility/option* to lock or hide some parts off, but that`s not > > point. The question was about what to
do by default.
> >
> > That`s how I see it at least.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Eduard
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:40 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau
<
> > gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi devs.
> > >
> > > Since 5.3, we have this issue opened:
> > > http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-9726 - The default rights of
> subwikis
> > > has changed.
> > >
> > > I am not shocked by the new settings - same as in the main wiki -
but
it is
> > different from what Workspaces used to be.
> >
> > What do you think about it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Louis-Marie
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