On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Thomas Mortagne <
 thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
 wrote:
  Then [Contrib][<Project>] I guess.
 On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Anca Luca <lucaa(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
  Actually I don't like the idea of having the
name of the application 
 itself
  and not a unique keyword because it's not
easy to have filters in the 
 mail
 > client for all the names of the applications on contrib (I cannot 
 imagine
   how I
would create these filters). With a single keyword filters are 
 easier
  to do.
 Let's please decide quickly on this, because I see there is already 
 contrib
  related activity that I am missing...
 Thanks,
 Anca
 On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Eduard Moraru <enygma2002(a)gmail.com>
 wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> 
wrote:
 >
> > Hi,
> >
> > > On 08 Apr 2016, at 11:43, Anca Luca <lucaa(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > Since 
http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/jrug6cbbqpia5bx4 (but not 
only)
 > > the
> > > rule says that we should discuss contrib related stuff with the
> > community.
> > > In my case, I cannot manage to follow all the mails on the
> > devs(a)xwiki.org
> > > (because they are a lot) but I would be particularly interested of 
not
 > > > missing the ones about contrib
extensions.
> >
> > Since the dev rules for xwiki contrib are now the same as for xwiki 
 core
 >> > (i.e. 
dev.xwiki.org), I’m not sure if it makes sense to 
 
differentiate
  > >
proposals. Maybe you could just filter mails with "[Proposal]" and
> "[VOTE]”?
> >
> > > However, today, I don't know how
> > > to differentiate them, I would need to read all devs(a)xwiki.org to 
not
 > > miss
> > > one.
> > >
> > > There are multiple solutions that I can propose for this, please 
 let
me
 > > > know what you think:
> > > 1/ have a contrib mailing list
> >
> > I feel that xwiki-contrib might be large enough now to warrant a 
 mailing
 > > list but maybe not 2 (users and devs).
> >
> > However there are issues:
> >
> > * Notifications from jira. We could have a single contrib(a)xwiki.org
> > mailing for everything related to contrib (users, devs, 
 notifications).
 > >
> > * Users don’t know if what they’re using from e.x.o is from Core or 
 from
 > > Contrib so they’d have a hard time
choosing the right list from
> > 
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/MailingLists. For 
 example
 > > right now we have: "users(a)xwiki.org
: For questions about using 
 XWiki,
 > > using the XWiki API, suggestions for
improvements, ideas, etc.”
> >
> >
> > > 2/ have an alias for the contrib that would send on the same list, 
this
 >> > way
 >> > > we could filter by the "to" field
 >> > > 3/ have a convention about mails related to contrib (e.g. 
 
[Contrib]
  in
 >> > the
 >> > > subject) that would allow to filter
 >> >
 >> > This is probably the simplest ATM. The pros is that it wouldn’t 
create
  > any
> > fragmentation between Contrib and Core, which is probably a good 
 thing.
 >> >
 >> > > 4/ any other technical solution that I didn't think about that
  would
  >> > allow
 >> > > to automatically decide if a mail is about contrib or not, without
 >> > reading
 >> > > it :D
 >> > >
 >> > >
 >> > > 1, 2 and even 4 are perfectly fine with me, 3 is a bit risky 
because
  > >
people
> > > might not follow conventions.
> > >
> > > What do you think?
> >
> > If we follow the direction that we’re trying to take, which is to 
 have a
 > > single large community (ie bring contrib
and core together), I think 
 the
 > > best is to keep using the same lists as
now but do a best effort of 
 using
 > > "[Contrib]” for mails related only
to contrib stuff.
> >
>
> IMO contrib devs should be up to date with the changes in the platform 
 and
 >> we should keep the communication tight with the platform. As we can 
  see,
  >> many topics on contrib apps trace down
to the platform and vice-versa.
 >>
 >> It would also not be very helpful for the project/community to do 
 such a
  >
segregation, so I agree with Vincent.
>
> Since we are talking about contrib (which are devs and which have a 
 guide
 > to follow), as Thomas suggested, it would be
a helpful idea to mention 
 the
 > app in the subject so that we can apply
filters in the mail client, 
 should
   we need
them.
 Thanks,
 Eduard
 >
 > Thanks
 > -Vincent
 >
 > > Anca
 >
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