Re: [xwiki-devs] [UX][Proposal] Simplifying the Homepage (content + left panels)

On 13 Jun 2016, at 13:17, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com>

Votes so far: 1. 3 = +1 (Ludovic), +1 (Caleb), +0 (Marius), +1 (Vincent), +0 (Caty) 2. 3 = +1 (GD), +1 (Marius), +1 (Caty) Thanks, Caty On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <

> Vincent, my understanding was that you had a certain preference, but

> true that you didn't explicitly voted. In this case I will try to count > just the explicit (+/- 0,1) votes. > > Still (after going on the mails) I will consider formulations like

> "preferred", "favor", "OK" - although I might be wrong, since otherwise

> hard to translate the feedback received in votes. Would be ideal if

> would vote explicitly. > > So, votes so far: > 1. +1 (Ludovic), +1 (Caleb), +0 (Marius), +1 (Vincent), +0 (Caty) > 2. +1 (GD), +1 (Marius), +1 (Caty) > 3. +1 (GL), -1 (Caty) > > Hope I didn't do mistakes, otherwise state them and we will correct the > vote. > > Thanks, > Caty > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt;

> >> Hi, >> >>> On 08 Jun 2016, at 13:50, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <

>> wrote: >>> >>> Votes so far on layout: >>> 1. +1 (Ludovic), +1 (Caleb) >>> 2. +1 (GD), +1 (Marius), +1 (Vincent) >> >> That’s not correct. I haven’t voted yet and I never said that the tree >> shouldn’t be there. >> >> I just highlighted pros and cons of each :) >> >> +1 to 1 because: >> - This is the option that shows clearly the concept of page hierarchy

>> users >> - Admins can then choose to keep it, only keep the AppBar (workgroup >> flavor-style) or only keep the Tree (documentation flavor-style) >> - This is about the default flavor which is generic. When we introduce >> more flavors in the future, those flavors can favor a different panel >> organization depending what’s best for them >> >> Thanks >> -Vincent >> >>> 3. +1 (GL) >>> >>> After more discussions the vote swifted towards: >>> 1. +1 (Ludovic), +1 (Caleb), +0 (Marius), +0 (Vincent) >>> 2. +1 (GD), +1 (Marius), +1 (Vincent) >>> 3. +1 (GL) >>> >>> My preference goes to 2. >>> >>> I vote for 2 since I believe that the Tree is already in the

>>> and the breadcrumb is introduced by the Tour. >>> I vote for 2 since we have scalability issues that I believe they will >> pose >>> some problems on the long run for the users. >>> >>> The only advantage var 1 has is that it displays the tree from the >> start to >>> the user. But after a time the user will be 'forced' to configure its >> wiki >>> and remove it. >>> Each time the user will install a new app, both the Appbar and the

>>> will increase in size. >>> >>> I like much more the classic AppBar navigation pattern and I think >> XWiki's >>> greater strength is in applications. >>> >>> We are lacking now multiple flavors that could showcase both the KB

>>> Groupware cases, but if I were to choose a default, that would be >>> Groupware. >>> >>> So on V1 I will be +0, but definitely -1 on V3. >>> >>> Votes so far: >>> 1. +1 (Ludovic), +1 (Caleb), +0 (Marius), +0 (Vincent), +0 (Caty) >>> 2. +1 (GD), +1 (Marius), +1 (Vincent), +1 (Caty) >>> 3. +1 (GL), -1 (Caty) >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Caty >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Caleb James DeLisle &lt;cjd(a)cjdns.fr&gt; >> wrote: >>> >>>> I disagree with this point, as a user of web interfaces I don't care

>>>> they look completely busted as long as I can make use of them, even

>> they >>>> become unusable in 5% of the situations, that's 95% where I can use >> them. >>>> >>>> Granted if we ship something that looks broken it's an embarassement >> but >>>> if we ship something that a person cannot navigate then we don't even >> have >>>> them complaining at us, they just become another silent non-adopter. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 08/06/16 11:01, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote: >>>> >>>>> So I think version (1) looks good but it doesn't scale with what we >> have >>>>> right now. Thus I'm more in favour of solution (2), at least until

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