6 Jan
2016
6 Jan
'16
6:37 p.m.
Hi,
sorry for the late reply.
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:27 AM, vincent(a)massol.net <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
Hi Caty,
On 16 Dec 2015 at 10:20:18, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) (valicac(a)gmail.com
(mailto:valicac@gmail.com)) wrote:
For the record, I think this is a good idea.
Thanks,
Guillaume
Thanks
Hi,
Having an user called 'Admin' is something that might be preserved. Maybe
changing the password, but besides that there is no point in deleting the
user.
Having an user called 'User' is not 'personal' enough and I'm not
sure if
someone would keep and use this kind of user, after the initial log-in.
I don’t know who suggested creating a user called “User” :) That would be
bad idea I agree.
So in the Installation Notes, we could promote
the Admin user for
Administrator's notes, while encouraging the registration of new user in
the Getting Started guide.
That’s not enough. Nobody reads install notes or guides. IMO it’s better
to have it done in the DW. If you check how you install OSes, they ask you
to create a user as part of the process. That seems the nicest as an
install flow.
The disadvantage of registering when just testing
XWiki is that it takes
longer. Ideally we should have social login that creates simple user
types.
Social login is interesting too but it’s far from being the main use case.
I’d say it corresponds to 5% of XWiki use cases since XWiki is an
enterprise wiki and you install it on premises and don’t make it a public
site in general. And you don’t want your employees to use social logins in
lots of cases.
For automated tests we would need a simple user
and create tests with
simple flows.
We do that already in several places.
Another solution would be to make the displaying
of Create terminal pages
check box disabled by default. So advanced Admin user would need to go to
their profile page and activate it, just like we have for "Display
Hidden”.
Yes that could be an option but I’m not sure yet if it makes sense. The
real question is whether Admins need to be able to create terminal pages or
not as part of their job. If the answer is no then your solution could make
sense.
-Vincent
Thanks,
Caty
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:07 AM, vincent(a)massol.net
wrote:
>
>
> On 16 Dec 2015 at 07:14:31, Marius Dumitru Florea (
> mariusdumitru.florea@xwiki.com(mailto:mariusdumitru.florea@xwiki.com))
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Guillaume Lerouge
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Devs,
> > >
> > > another observation regarding this. Earlier today I watched a new
user
> who
> > > was trying XWiki 7.3. He had created a number of pages as terminal
> pages.
> > >
> >
> > Did he use the default Admin profile (which is configured as
advanced)
or
> > did he register a new profile (which is
not advanced unless you
configure
> > it explicitly)? The default Admin
profile is not the best way to test
> XWiki
> > if you are a simple user.
>
> Note that anyone trying XWiki will use the Admin user ATM since that’s
the
> only user we provide by default and we even
tell users to log with this
> user in the installation instructions… :)
>
> To fix this we could ask the user to create both an admin and a user
in a
> DW step. Or make the admin a simple user by
default.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> [snip]
>
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