4 Sep
2014
4 Sep
'14
4:11 p.m.
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
What about supporting what Microsoft support ? That
means not IE9/10/11 only.
Remove the "not" of course.
See
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2014/08/07/stay-up-to-date-with-internet….
IMO we should not do more that the own browser editor does.
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 3:40 PM, vincent(a)massol.net <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
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Thomas Mortagne
Reviving this thread since we need to decide and
lots of committers haven’t voted yet!
I’ve updated http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/BrowserSupportStrategy with
recent market share.
Note that there are various other sources and they don’t seem to show similar data:
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers
- http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parts_de_march%C3%A9_des_navigateurs_web
- http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php
However I think they all show that if we wish to support 80% of users we have to support
about the 10 top browsers used and AFAICS this includes:
- IE8/9/10/11
- FF latest
- Chrome latest
- Safari latest
It seems market shared for IE8/9 are still high. However IE10 is less high (probably
because those who upgraded to it quickly upgraded to IE11)?
So far we have the following votes:
- Andrea: +1 to support IE10/11
- Vincent: +1 to support IE10/11
- Marius: +1 to support IE11, +0 to support IE8/9/10
Thanks
-Vincent
On 10 Jun 2014 at 09:08:43, vincent(a)massol.net
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Thomas Mortagne Hi Andrea/all,
On 10 Jun 2014 at 08:46:45, Andreea Popescu
(andreea.popescu@xwiki.com(mailto:andreea.popescu@xwiki.com)) wrote:
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http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs Hello all,
Following the "Start supporting IE10 and IE11" thread I’d like to propose
to vote if we will support IE10 and IE11.
FTR the thread in question is at http://markmail.org/message/zjlbcfkl5cqnrwfk
The most important reasons for supporting these
versions are:
- Internet Explorer 8 and Internet Explorer 9 are still widely used by
users, but many of them are currently choosing to update to IE10 and IE11.
- according to netmarketshare.com (Browsers -> Desktop Share by Version)
from a total of 100%, IE10 is used by 6.85% users and IE11 by 16.61% users.
It’s true that IE10 is not as popular as the older versions (IE8 - 20.85%
and IE9 - 8.89%), but its usage percentage is still significant.
Here’s my +1.
On the above-mentioned thread Marius had proposed to support only the latest version of
each browser, which is basically what we’re doing except for IE. The rationale is that it
takes time to support all browsers and the community can only do so much. Companies
offering paid services on top of XWiki could support the other browser versions for their
customers.
While I understand that, my POV is a bit different: I’d like that we support the top
browsers/versions used by the majority of people, because I feel XWiki will be successful
if the majority of people can use it without problems.
Looking at the graph at
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/BrowserSupportStrategy if we were to support
at least the top 6 browser/versions we would cover 70% of the user base. For IE this means
supporting IE8-11. Note that strangely IE8 is the top browser in market shares, way above
most of the others… Not supporting it ATM would mean “loosing" 20%+ of users. If we
have problems supporting, say the top 10 browsers, then we can drop to top 6, if that’s an
issue, then to top 5, etc. ATM we’re supporting 5 browsers and with IE10-11, this would
mean raising to 7 browsers. I propose that we try it with the additional 2 browsers
(IE10-11) and see if it’s a burden for us or it’s manageable.
So there are 2 questions in here:
- Starting the support for IE10-11: I’m +1 for that
- Deciding if we want to support only one version for each browser or instead support the
highest browsers in marketshare. I’m +1 for the marketshare approach.
Thanks
-Vincent