Hi,
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
  On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Guillaume Lerouge
<guillaume(a)xwiki.com>
 wrote:
  Hi Marius,
 On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea <
 mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
 > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Guillaume Lerouge < 
guillaume(a)xwiki.com>
  > wrote:
 > > Hi again,
 > >
 > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau
<
 > > gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
 > >
 > >> Hi Eddy,
 > >>
 > >> 2014-09-25 11:59 GMT+02:00 Eduard Moraru <enygma2002(a)gmail.com>om>:
 > >>
 > >> > Hi devs,
 > >> >
 > >> > I`m not sure if we already have a discussion started on this 
topic,
  > but
 > >> in
 > >> > my opinion, it's long overdue. I see people start being confused
 and
  > >> > questions like this [1] start
to be asked.
 > >> >
 > >> > The new location of the Add menu in Flamingo is problematic IMO 
for
  a
 > >> > various number of reasons:
 > >> > - It falsely gives the impression that it adds page-related 
entries
   (i.e.
 >> > related to the current page), due to its current location (i.e. in 
the
 > >> page
 > >> > content)
 > >> > - It conflicts with AWM`s "Add new Entry" button
 > >>
 > >
 >
 > > More generally speaking, this is true for a lot of livetables. We 
  would
    need a generic "Create" button to be
available when we instantiate a
 livetable. This could be useful for the wiki index page, for the user
 directory, for all the AWM homepages... 
 I guess you like the files live table from the File Manager then :)
 
   
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/File+Manager+Applicati…
   . Would
be interesting to have such a toolbar (with support for custom
 buttons) before the live table don't you think?
 
    IMO the toolbar's functionality is already covered by the 'Actions'
column
 in the livetable. The only thing missing is the 'Create'
 
I'm not sure this is the same use case. I can see at least 3 reasons why:
1/ The "create" button would generate a new entry, whereas the
"actions"
column is for actions that are related to individual entries that already
exist
2/ The "actions" column can be removed by the livetable creator
3/ The toolbar would also be useful to handle bulk actions on pages such as
"delete selected entries" (as in the file manager)
Best,
Guillaume
Thanks,
  Caty
  Yes and yes :-)
 Guillaume
   Basically
the button would let the user create a new item of the same 
 type
  than the items displayed in the livetable. Right
now we do this in an
 ad-hoc fashion, so it would be great to have a generic solution. It's 
 also
 > related to the automatic page name generation module (that we don't 
  have
  in
  the core yet, though there's an extensions
doing it
 < 
    >
 > ).
 >
 > Guillaume
 >
 >
 >> > - from my POV, looking at the page from a far, the new location 
looks
  >> > completely randomly selected:
 >> > -- It's not on the left/top (as left-to-right language specific 
brains
  > are
> > trained to follow)
> > -- it's not exactly at the top either
> > -- it's not at the right
> > -- it's not next to the type of elements it creates (i.e. next to
> > WIKI/SPACE/PAGE)
> > -- it basically is almost in the middle of the screen
> > - etc. (i.e. others that don`t come right now to my mind)
> >
>
> Personally, I like the fact that it is located near the Edit button, 
 even
 > if it does not concern the current page.
Because it groups the most 
 basic
 >> and useful actions that you need when you want to contribute: EDIT, 
  ADD.
 > >>
 > >> To me, it makes sense.
 > >>
 > >>
 > >> >
 > >> > I`d like to open a discussion on this, since it's quite an 
 
important
  > >> aspect
 > >> > of the UI and, due to it's shiny green color (which I like :)),
 it`s
  > hard
 > >> > to miss.
 > >> >
 > >> > Is it just me who's resistant to change, or do others see a 
problem
   here
 > > with this as well?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Eduard
> >
> > ----------
> > [1] 
http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/rqcxryksa2ckjhpm
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