25 Jul
2008
25 Jul
'08
11:43 a.m.
On Jul 25, 2008, at 11:32 AM, Anca Paula Luca wrote:
Vincent Massol wrote:
No. XWiki.org must be stable.
I'd suggest you make smaller release cycles :) That can only be good!
Thanks
-Vincent
[snip]
On Jul 25, 2008, at 10:56 AM, Anca Paula Luca
wrote:
no, it is not.
But XWatch milestones do use XE milestones and, since Watch release
cycles are
pretty long for the moment, it would be interesting to have all
milestones.
Do we use milestones on xwiki.org?
Vincent Massol wrote:
I think we would learn a lot from it, eating our own dog food at the
community level.
On Jul 25, 2008, at 10:15 AM, Anca Paula Luca
wrote:
> Vincent Massol wrote:
>> I'd be fine with http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ExternalNews/WebHome
>> but I think it's better to have a top level domain name for
>> several
>> reasons:
>> * better visibility
>> * easier to go to rather than having to go xwiki.org and click
>> on a
>> link
>> * easier for upgrades (XE on xwiki.org and watch are separate)
> this makes me +1 for a separate wiki. I would have had it in the
> watch wiki on
> xwiki.org but, since the goal is to have the latest version of
> watch
> running
> there, we need to make sure it is freely upgradable (which can
> require upgrading
> the underlying XE).
>
> Otherwise, I still think it should be on watch.xwiki.org rather
> than
> xwiki.org
> for consistency reasons, since it would be a demo of watch -- that
> is the main
> purpose as I see it, allowing people to click around and have a
> quick look
> without having to download, install, etc.
Then we still have a disagreement :)
Right now (and I'd like to keep it this way) all wikis on the
xwiki.org domain are for *real*. They are not test platforms for
people to see how xwiki works and have some fun trying it. They
have
real usages (documentation of the xwiki software).
We have one exception: this is playground.xwiki.org which is there
for
people to test and play around.
Thus my proposal is:
1) have a new wiki (news.xwiki.org, same as we have jira.xwiki.org,
svn.xwiki.org and maven.xwiki.org) which will be our news "portal".
Note: It will also listen to the xwiki.org Blog feed.
2) have a Watch space in playground.xwiki.org for people to try out
Watch.
it makes a lot of sense, so:
+0 for 1: it would be nice to have it, it would be nice to have it
working
properly (having people *really* collaboratively watching) but that
is not the
purpose I started this thread for. +1 for 2, since this one is :). But now we're
back one mail to the
upgrade
problem: I would like to have always the last version of watch
running in the
playground, which could require platform / XE upgrades, from time to
time, since
the plugins & modules that watch is using don't really have their
own lifecycle,
yet.
We need to talk to Raff. I think right now playground is a subwiki on
the xwiki.org farm.
Right now the xwiki.org is upgraded to the latest version of XE
whenever it's released (within 1 or 2 weeks usually) so I don't see a
problem. When we do this upgrade we can upgrade watch too. And if the
watch releases comes later we upgrade watch only. Unless final watch
releases use non final XE releases. Is that the case?