18 Mar
2008
18 Mar
'08
11:26 a.m.
On Mar 18, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
Hi,
I'm not so sure about some Storage Components implementations if it's
clearly defined by XWiki team (in theory as I suppose it will not be
possible for the hibernate store that will have to be done as Data
Model implementation first dependency) but I think at least the New
Data Model has to be done by core comitters especially because almost
all comitters will be involved in this process at some points.
It's for me the most important XWiki work that has to be done since
I'm XWiki comitter (no so long ok ;) ) and this has to be lead by
someone who know very well XWiki internals and its history. He/she
will also have to be available when all other comiters will refactors
there respective parts/plugins of XWiki products and will ask 10 times
a day lots of "how best to ?" and "ho no we forgot that, where can we
put it ?".
... and stay as an active committers for the long run...
-Vincent
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
Hi Asiri,
I'm personally not in favor of having those 2 ideas done as GSOC
projects. My reasons:
* They are the most complex possible since they are at the very heart
of XWiki
* They need to be done by existing committers since this is at the
heart of xwiki and we'll need to support them on the long run
* They are NOT standalone projects and they interact too much with
other parts of XWiki.
* They have not had the experience of implementing the first
generation version and thus will not know the pitfalls and all the
ideas that have been raised on these topics over the years
In essence this means that almost any line written will need to be
discussed at length, validated, understood by existing committers. I
don't think it's fair to give this to a GSOC student especially as
it'll be almost impossible for him/her to be sure of delivering
anything. Then it would mean several mentors and that they are 100%
available which is not going to happen. And last if they were I would
prefer that they tackle it themselves since again this is really at
XWiki's heart.
This is my opinion only and Segiu obviously has a different one since
he proposed these 2 projects. So first thing, we need to decide if we
want to have them a GSOC project.
What do other committers think?
Thanks
-Vincent
On Mar 12, 2008, at 4:12 PM, Asiri Rathnayake wrote:
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Thomas Mortagne
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This is about the above two GSoC ideas,
I would like to know what are the deliverables for the above two
projects ? My guess is,
1. Finished Components (i think these are going to be two jar
files ?, i'm yet to discover plexus)
2. Test cases.
3. Current core integrated with the two components.
4. Anything else ?
Since the current core doesn't follow a components based
architecture, what kind of complications will arise in the
integration phase ?
Vincent, what about the two implementations of the data-model
component in the sandbox ? have you made a decision ? :)
Your help and comments are very much appreciated.
Thanks.
- Asiri
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