22 Jun
2016
22 Jun
'16
11:33 a.m.
+1
2016-06-22 10:02 GMT+02:00 Marius Dumitru Florea <
mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>gt;:
+1
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 7:00 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
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Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project
Hi devs,
I’m transforming the brainstorming that was started in the thread
http://markmail.org/message/exlndbq3tw2thmmu into a VOTE mail since this
is a very important decision.
So I’m asking you to vote for defining a new direction for the XWiki Core
Dev Team (i.e. for the XWiki GitHub Organization). The need was triggered
by the Tour and CKEditor extensions which are currently in xwiki-contrib
and that we want our users to have by default. For more details see this
thread: http://markmail.org/message/exlndbq3tw2thmmu
So here’s the strategy:
* Make XWiki Github org == minimal runtime, where minimal means “basic
wiki” (page edition, history, linking, wiki markup, etc). The notion of
“basic wiki” would need to be better defined but this can be done later
on.
* Provide a "Base Flavor" which
corresponds to this “basic wiki”, as part
of xwiki-platform (this would be xwiki-platform-distribution).
* Provide another flavor, the "Default Flavor” which would add some
hand-picked third-party extensions (i.e. from contrib) such as the Tour
app
and CKEditor (to start with, we could also add
the markdown syntax for
example which is one of the most asked syntaxes). Note that this Default
Flavor would actually be a “replacement" of xwiki-enterprise.
* The Default Flavor would have at least the same
release cycle as the
base flavor but it could have more releases (if some of the bundled
third-party extensions has some important bug fixes or new features that
we
want to offer quickly without waiting for the
next base flavor release).
I don't think we need to release the Default Flavor more often than the
Base Flavor because with this new strategy the users can upgrade individual
extensions (those that are not in the Base Flavor) without upgrading the
WAR. Currently the users cannot upgrade the Blog because the new version of
the Blog depends on a new version of the XWiki WAR. With this new strategy
the users will be able to upgrade the Blog (considering that the Blog is
not part of the Base Flavor).
On the same topic, we have the Extension Updater administration section
where users can check for extension updates. The problem is that the
extensions included in a flavor are considered dependencies of the flavor
and thus are installed as dependencies which means the Extension Updater
cannot separate them from other technical dependencies and thus won't check
for their updates. Ideally a flavor should be a pack of extensions that are
installed explicitly (not as dependencies). This way the Extension Updater
can propose updates and at the same time the users can uninstall extensions
from a flavor without removing the flavor.
Thanks,
Marius
* The consequence is that the XWiki Dev Team
would need to be a bit more
careful to monitor the quality of bundled third-party extensions in
contrib
(check commits, do some smoke testing, etc). Note
that the goal of the
Default flavor would not be to offer verticals (for this there should be
some contrib flavors) and thus it wouldn’t bundle a lot of third-party
extensions. Basically we’ll need to validate the version of those
third-party extensions that include in the flavor.
My POV is that globally this would offer more flexibility for our users
(they’ll be able to install extensions such as CK and Tour in older XWiki
versions and they’ll get more frequent releases) at the cost of some
overhead to develop extensions that work in several versions. The dev
team
is pretty small and thus it means developing a
bit less fast but it’s
probably as important, if not more important, to make the code we develop
available in older xwiki versions, as XWiki gains traction.
Here’s my +1
Please cast your vote.
Thanks
-Vincent
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