21 Dec
2016
21 Dec
'16
1:38 p.m.
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
<valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I also think this goes a bit away from the nested
concept we are trying to
promote and into the old space/page; folder/file concept. While I'm sure
there are users that don't like the change or that want the old model, this
is a change we need to assume and try to stick to it. Mixing things
together will just confuse everyone.
Also the comparison with the folder is mostly as a metaphor. Some people
might expect to be able to drag files in the wiki (just like they do in OS
or Dropbox or File Manager, etc.) but the behavior of that template won't
accommodate for any of these.
The template can be put on e.x.o, but I don't
think it should be added by
default. Also we will need a mechanism to garden the current templates we
provide by default and keep just the ones that are effective + let the
users know other templates might be available on e.x.o.
We could have some UI that search for extensions with the category
"template" or something like this. It mostly mean make the flavor
picker generic enough to support any category since that's already
what it does but just for the category "flavor".
Thanks,
Caty
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea <
mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
> Hi Guillaume,
>
> I'm not convinced. It's strange to see a Folder template and no File
> template. I understand the use case but we have the Dashboard template that
> covers some parts of it. It seems to me that your template offers a
> dedicated dashboard, so I think it's name should come from that. It's not
> clear why a dashboard with the children tree and the activity stream would
> be called "Folder".
>
> Thanks,
> Marius
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Guillaume Delhumeau <
> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello developers. I'm here to propose a new template in XWiki to help
> users
> > creating container-oriented pages.
> >
> > = Problem =
> >
> > UC1: Users don't always understand the Nested Pages concept. They are
> lost
> > because they know the concept of Folders and Files and they are used to
> it,
> > and then we ask them to switch to something new that breaks their habits.
> >
> > UC2: Users often need a page that will be the container of some others
> > (think about the typical "Code" space that we have in all
applications)
> and
> > they'd like to see quickly all children of that container.
> >
> > = Proposition =
> >
> > * Introduce a Folder template the user can chose when she creates a page.
> > * This folder template displays the children of the page
> > ** It could even be a Dashboard with the children pages on the left, and
> an
> > Activity Stream on the right.
> >
> > == Drawback ==
> >
> > The workflow of creating a page that is a folder instead of directly
> create
> > a folder might be confusing.
> >
> > == Screenshots ==
> >
> > Screenshot of my proposition are available there:
> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/
> > FolderTemplate#HScreenshots
> >
> > Please answers your ideas on this mail thread, not on the wiki.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
> > Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
> > Committer on the XWiki.org project
> >
>
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Thomas Mortagne