4 Dec
2014
4 Dec
'14
1:35 p.m.
In theory the proposal sounds good, although it increases the process rules
and number of organizations, etc.
We still have things to figure out, but it looks ok +1
Thanks,
Caty
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:37 AM, vincent(a)massol.net <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
On 4 Dec 2014 at 10:28:43, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau (
gdelhumeau@xwiki.com(mailto:gdelhumeau@xwiki.com)) wrote:
There’s just 2 problems with “incubator”:
1) we’re going to not have any place to put our extensions/modules that
are no longer supported… And I’d rather not create another org just for
that…
2) incubator means that it’s a transient location and that the goal is
always to go in xwiki-contrib-extensions while “sandbox” is more neutral.
Thanks
-Vincent
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Hi
2014-12-03 15:57 GMT+01:00 vincent(a)massol.net :
> Hi committers (and devs in general),
>
> I’m submitting to you this idea, to try to improve the xwiki open
source
> project and to give it a new dynamism. I
believe the topics discussed
below
> are made even more important since we’re
soon going to develop the
notion
> of flavors in XWiki.
>
> Note that this proposal obsoletes the
> http://markmail.org/message/4hglttljiio5v2km proposal (i.e. the move
of
> some extensions in the xwiki github
organization), which itself was
> obsoleting http://markmail.org/message/ppw2slpgqou2ihai
>
> Issues to solve
> ===============
>
> * The scope of the code maintained by the XWiki Dev Team (== the xwiki
> github organization) is increasing but the team stays relatively small
> * The more stuff we move into the repos of the xwiki github
organization,
> the less easy it is for non-“XWiki Dev Team”
committers to participate
and
> we want more contributions
>
> Proposed solution
> =================
>
> Executive summary:
> * Reduce the scope of all the code located in the xwiki github
> organization by only keeping “core” modules
> * A “core" module is defined by being a generic transversal module
(i.e.
> that can be used in lots of XWiki flavors,
if not all). This is
opposed to
> “vertical” modules which are modules
specific of a usage of XWiki.
> ** Examples of “core" modules: logging module, configuration module,
> distribution wizard, statistics application, annotations, active
installs,
> one base flavor (the “XWiki” flavor), etc
> ** Example of “vertical” modules: meeting manager application, blog
> application, FAQ application, flavors (except the base flavor), etc
>
> Some consequences:
> * We need a new location for several modules that would go out of the
> xwiki github organization repos
> * It would be good to separate sandbox extensions from 1st class
> extensions that are maintained and developed following best practices.
We
> need some way to maintain the quality of
important extensions
>
> Detailed Implementation:
> * The “xwiki” github organization’s description becomes “XWiki Core”
(it’s
> too complex to rename the org to
“xwiki-core” IMO)
> * “XWiki Dev Team” becomes the “XWiki Core Team” (and committers in
there
are
called “XWiki Core Committers”).
* “xwiki-contrib” is split into 2 github organizations (technically we
rename it to “xwiki-contrib-sandbox”):
** “xwiki-contrib-sandbox” (or “xwiki-incubator”), where newly proposed
extensions or abandoned extensions are located
I prefer xwiki-contrib-incubator because the "sandbox" name gives me the
impression of projects that are not serious. I would not like to create a
project in a "sandbox", but I would be OK to put it in an "incubator”.
> ** “xwiki-contrib-extensions”, where
maintained extensions are located.
> * These 2 organizations are commonly referred to as “XWiki Contrib"
> * Same as now, anyone requesting a repo in xwiki-contrib-sandbox would
be
> granted one and he/she’d be given write
access to all repos in the
> xwiki-contrib-sandbox organization.
> * We define some rules for graduating from xwiki-contrib-sandbox to
> xwiki-contrib-extensions. For example:
> ** The extension should have been in xwiki-contrib-sandbox at least 6
> months (this gives time to see if the extension is maintained during
that
> time and will survive the test of time -
most extensions will die in
the
> first months)
> ** The extension should have had more than 2 releases and be published
on
>
extensions.xwiki.org(http://extensions.xwiki.org) with documentation
> ** The extension should work with the latest LTS version of XWiki + the
> latest stable version of XWiki (right now that would be 5.4.5 + 6.3).
Note
> that if the extension has to use new API
it’s ok that it doesn’t work
on
> the latest LTS.
> ** Generally follow the practices defined at http://dev.xwiki.org
> * Each extension in xwiki-extensions has a leader/maintainer. He/she’s
the
> one proposing to move the extension from
xwiki-sandbox to
xwiki-extensions.
> He/she’s responsible for ensuring that the
extension gets regular
releases
> and is maintained in general. He/she defines
initially the list of
> committers in his email proposal for moving the extension.
> * We create a PMC (Project Management Committee) for XWiki Contrib,
> generally in charge of both xwiki-contrib-sandbox and
> xwiki-contrib-extensions (voting new extensions in
> xwiki-contrib-extensions, vote new PMC members, etc). To bootstrap it,
I
> would send a mail on devs@ asking who’s
interested to be part of this
> committee. I expect some core committers + some contrib committers to
stand
> up.
> * Contrib extensions keep using the org.xwiki.contrib package name and
> groupid as currently defined at http://contrib.xwiki.org
>
> Note: The idea is that xwiki core is developed as a team maintaining
all
> code in there, xwiki contrib is developed
extension by extension (each
> extension is an island). This allows anyone to propose extensions in
XWiki
Contrib
without the need for everyone to support them.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
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+1 for the proposal.
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Guillaume Delhumeau (gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project
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