On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Thomas
Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu
<sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
On 10/12/2011 03:42 AM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu<sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>> On 10/11/2011 10:04 AM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
>>> hi devs,
>>>
>>> The idea is that in Maven in general you should never embed anything
>>> except for final distribution packages that are not supposed to be
>>> used as dependencies of other maven projects (installers, standalone
>>> packages, etc.). This will also allow us to properly setup
>>> dependencies in xar so that dependency is installed when installing a
>>> xar in Extension Manager without its pages being imported twice.
>>>
>>> So I propose the following changes:
>>> * in xar plugin:
>>> ** stop embedding dependencies as default behavior
>>
>> +1
>>
>>> ** introduce an optional property for it.
>>
>> +0
>>
>>> * in XE/XEM have two different xars:
>>> ** a normal one with just XE pages and proper dependencies setup
>>> ** a "standalone" one which embed all XE dependencies xar
(basically
>>> the one we have now)
>>
>> Not quite sure I like this.
>>
>> First, we're supposed to be moving documents out of xwiki-enterprise and
>> into application modules inside the platform, so there shouldn't be any
>> XE XAR at all, just a list of default dependencies to include in the
>> standalone database.
>
> Yes we are supposed to be I'm pretty sure it's not going to happen in
> 3.3 and IMO it's another subject. Also you forget some pages like
> Main.WebHome that are still specific to XE and could not go in any
> platform application IMO, everything in XEM is properly in application
> located in platform but you still have some specific XEM pages.
>
>>
>> Second, if we do push forward the extension manager as the preferred way
>> of installing XARs, then such a bundle XAR shouldn't be needed at all.
>> For the standalone distribution the packager plugin could just install
>> the XE shallow XAR + its dependencies, while for WAR installs users
>> could just pull it using the extension manager. So, the big fat XAR
>> shouldn't have any use either.
>
> In the future of course but we are not ready for it right now. It's
> not like I'm proposing to introduce a standalone package, it's already
> here. Let's not rush it.
Indeed. So yes, for a quick fix for the moment, while waiting for better
solutions, we do need the two packages.
I wasn't -1, I was just a reluctant +0.5 knowing that there will be
better options in the future.
How do you envision this, implementation-wise? Two maven modules, one
with documents the other as a bundle, or two build artifacts from the
same module?
Definitely two modules. With the bundle somewhere in
https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise/tree/master/xwiki-enterprise-dist…
since that's what it is.
Then I'm not sure if the not bundled xar will be
https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise/tree/master/xwiki-enterprise-wiki
or a package in
https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise/tree/master/xwiki-manager-applica…
> like I tried to do with XEM (which already have this separation
> between proper application but without the dependencies since it was
> not possible and the bundled package).