17 Mar
2010
17 Mar
'10
10:34 a.m.
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On Mar 17, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Anca Luca wrote:
+1 again!
Anca, why don't you want your awesome work to be bundled in XE by default?
;-)
Guillaume
Hi Vincent,
On 03/15/2010 07:17 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>
> On Mar 15, 2010, at 4:04 PM, Anca Luca wrote:
>
>> Hi Vincent, all
>>
>> On 03/15/2010 12:15 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We've slipped badly for the 2.3M1 release (my fault for not monitoring
it closely enough). It was planned on the 8th of March and we're the 15th
already (one week delay).
>>>
>>> The other problem is that we don't have what we had imagined would go
in 2.3M1 (color theme improvement for ex). Right now there are lots of
changes but nothing really user-noticeable.
>>>
>>> So I'd suggest the following:
>>> * Delay by a few days in order to be able to include:
>>> - color theme improvement. Sergiu you need to tell us if that's doable
and for when.
>>> - captcha on comments. Caleb, let us
know if that's all done or if
there's need for more testing/development.
>>>
>>> Bonus:
>>> - Anca, will it be possible to have annotations released for 2.3M1 (ie
now)? How much more time would you need?
>>
>> I'll close the vote for XWIKI-4775 asap, and commit it since it's due a
long
>> time now.
>> I shouldn't need more than 2 days, but how would we want the
annotations
>> integrated in the platform?
>>
>> Right now they're built as an extension, with some jars to deploy on
the server
>> and a .xar to install the default
annotations application.
>
> I think we should:
> * have platform/xwiki-annotations and release it when we release the
plaform
> * have applications/annotations and include
it in the default XE XAR
>
> The rationale is that annotations is a powerful feature and I believe
it's
good to have it by default for now (it would be too difficult to
install it separately for now).
Why would it be difficult? we can maven magic a zip with a bunch of jars
anytime
and make people unpack it in their WEB-INF/lib
& install the xar. I think
that's
reasonable complexity for such an extension.
That's what I call complex. It's too complex for a large majority of our
users and it would make the annotation feature not used which is a shame. In
any case I don't see any compelling reason not to bundle it by default in
the default XE we distribute.
Thanks
-Vincent
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Thanks,
Anca
>
> When we have the extension manager implemented, we'll be able to trim
down
the size of what the "core" platform and instead have the user be able
to install extensions when they start their wiki for the first time or when
they go to the admin page for this. But since we don't have this now I feel
it's better to have annotations packaged in the platform and in the default
XAR than not have it.
>
> Here's my +1 to both (API in the platform and annotation XAR in default
XE).
>
> Note: It would be great to have the ability to turn on/off the
annotations
feature for 2.3 final.
Thanks
-Vincent
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