On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Clément Aubin <clement.aubin(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
Hi,
On 07/13/2017 02:28 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote:
We could have a setting: "watch all
locations" or "watch just particular
pages". Further more you have the ability to "watch all events" or play
with the on/off switches.
If the proposal of Marius is implemented (adding
exclusion filters to
notifications),
Or inclusion list. It depends what you think is best: start with no
notification or start with all notifications.
then this should be easily doable, but we have to
think
about how to include this feature in the notification center UI (which
is already a bit crowded).
If the user sets to "just particular
pages", than the "watch" icon
appears
and we use the include list. Also when setting
watch for particular
pages,
the user might want to configure the
"auto-watch" for the pages he
created,
or commented, or edited. Those pages will be
automatically added in the
include list, with the possibility to manually remove them from the page
(on the bell icon) or from the watched filters list.
Thanks,
Caty
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Guillaume Delhumeau <
guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
> It makes sense. Creating an exclude filter is much more natural than the
> complicated filter I was proposing...
I do agree on that. Apart from the use case that we are currently
talking about, this could be useful in further notification center
improvements.
> But in the case of the auto-watch, it could
be good to store somewhere
the
> list of pages where the user has contributed,
in order to still include
> them even if the user disable the notifications on a larger scope.
So I guess that it would take too much time to get a list of
contributions directly from a query on the database (particularly for
large wikis with a lot of pages). We could add references to the
contributed pages of a user directly in XObjects linked to its profile.
> 2017-07-12 10:57 GMT+02:00 Marius Dumitru
Florea <
> mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com>gt;:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 7:26 PM, Guillaume Delhumeau <
>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>>
>>> *TL;DR*
>>>
>>> - Add a button in each page that will allow you to subscribe to all
>>> events that happens to that page.
>>> - When you subscribe to a page with this "in-context" bell, it
must
>> not
>>> affect your other preferences regarding notifications.
>>>
>>> *Full Post*
>>>
>>> Hello developers,
>>>
>>> With Clément Aubin, we are implementing new features in the
> Notifications
>>> Application in order to be able to remove the Watchlist Application.
>>>
>>> *Status*
>>>
>>> Currently, a user can subscribe to different kinds of events (ex:
>> "update",
>>> "comment", "blog published", etc...). Recently, we have
also added the
>>> ability to restrict on which locations we are interested in, for each
>> kind
>>> of events. For example, we are now able to say, "for the *update*
> event,
>>> show me notifications only about the wiki ABC and for the *blog post*
>>> event, show me notifications only about the space XYZ".
>>>
>>> If you have no restriction (a.k.a "filters") on an event type, then
you
>>> receive notifications for every event
matching the event type in the
>> wiki,
>>> no matter the location of the entity it concerns.
>>>
>>> *Objectives*
>>>
>>> In the Watchlist Application, we had 3 switches on the top menu that
> was
>>> displayed on every page, and these switches were "watch this wiki /
> watch
>>> this space / watch this page". That would be great if we could have
the
>>> same for the notifications.
>>>
>>> *Proposal*
>>>
>>> - Add the ability to subscribe to all events that happen in a given
>>> location, no matter their type (≈ what the watchlist does).
>>> - In each page, add a button to subscribe to the current location:
>>>
https://pasteboard.co/GAqEi6M.png (thanks Caty for the mockup)
>>>
>>
>>
>>> - Problem: if you previously had no restriction, you suddenly add a
>> new
>>> one that will prevent you to receive any notifications
>>> concerning the other
>>>
>>
>> Maybe I didn't understood correctly, but if you have no restrictions
and
>> you go to a page A then that page should
appear as "watched" because
you
>> are receiving notifications for that page
(because you don't have
>> restrictions). So if the icon is "watched" then clicking on it will
> toggle
>> "don't watch". So you are actually removing that page from the list
of
>> watched pages (i.e. you add an exclude).
>>
>> It all depends on what's the initial state:
>>
>> (1) receive notifications from everywhere => then when you go to a page
> you
>> can exclude it
>> (2) no notifications => then when you go to a page you can include it
>>
>> So it depends what you understand by "no restrictions". Either all
>> notifications or no notifications.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Marius
>>
>>
>>> locations. A bit like the rights module: adding a right to
>>> someone at some
>>> level will dismiss rights for all other people. I guess we all
>>> agree it's a
>>> problem on the User Experience point of view.
>>> - Proposition: the restriction added by the "in-context"
button
>>> should be *inactive if there is no other restriction enabled
>> manually
>>> via the notification preferences UI*.
>>> - Rational:
>>> - When you are on the notifications preferences, you can
>> actually
>>> see all restrictions, so you can understand that creating
>>> one will make you
>>> lose all notifications that do not honor the restrictions.
>>> - However, when you are on a page, you don't see all the
>>> restrictions. If you click on the "subscribe" bell
>>> naively, you might not
>>> expect it will impact all other notifications. It would
>>> actually be very
>>> confusing.
>>> - In addition: if we add an "auto-watch" option, that
add
> the
>>> page you just saved to the list of locations you are interested in,
> we
>>> need
>>> to have this feature too. Otherwise saving a document will make all
>>> other
>>> notifications silent.
>>>
>>> That is our plan. Cast you ideas!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Guillaume
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
> Committer on the
XWiki.org project
>
Thanks,
--
Clément Aubin
Web Developer Intern @XWiki SAS
clement.aubin(a)xwiki.com
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