3 Aug
2011
3 Aug
'11
11:39 a.m.
Hi Denis,
On Aug 3, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Denis Gervalle wrote:
Hi Vincent,
Why are you proposing 2 booleans ? Is there non-technical application spaces
?
Here's an example: The Scheduler space:
- it's a technical space (i.e. not shown to all users)
- it's an application space (i.e. shown in the Application Panel for advanced users)
A second example: The Blog space:
- it's a non technical space (i.e. shown to all users)
- it's an application space (i.e. shown to all in the Application Panel)
Another example: The Sandbox space:
- it's a non technical space (i.e. shown to all users)
- it's not an application space (i.e. not shown in the Application Panel but shown in
the Spaces list in the Dashboard - i.e. in the "Content" spaces list)
Maybe a static list for qualifying spaces would be
better and more flexible,
WDYT ?
Or else, why not having a boolean for really hiding spaces, the true
replacement of blacklistedspaces (there could be non-technical spaces that
admin want to hide anyway) and maybe a static list for qualifying them if
you have identified this need?
To do that you'd need two lists for hiding spaces: one for simple users and one for
advanced users. That's because both categories of users don't necessarily match in
term of needs.
I'm fine to have 3 booleans for each space if you think we need to have this use case
(i.e. ability to not show spaces for advanced users - I'm still unsure we want to do
this though):
- is an application space?
- is hidden for simple users (replacing technical space idea)?
- is hidden for advanced users?
What do others think? Do we need the ability to hide spaces for advanced users?
Thanks
-Vincent
Your idea seams to me interesting but will probably
fall short or be misused
on the long term...
Denis
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 19:05, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi devs,
I'd like to propose 2 small changes that should make a huge difference for
our users.
1) Introduce the notion of technical spaces
The idea is that in WebPreferences for a space we should have a boolean
property mentioning if the space is a technical space or not.
This will allow to:
* Remove the blacklistedspaces variable
* List only non technical spaces for simple users
2) Introduce the notion of Application spaces
The idea is that in WebPreferences for a space we should have a boolean
property mentioning if the space is an application space or not.
This will allow to:
* Replace the Quick Links Panel with an Applications Panel listing all
spaces that are application spaces
* Only list Content spaces in the Spaces Gadget in the Dashboard
* Add the ability for extensions to declare new applications that
automatically appear in the Applications Panel
I'd also like to suggest adding a global admin preferences to quickly
select all spaces that are application and/or technical spaces (imagine a
list of all spaces with 2 checkboxes for each space listed). This makes it
very easy for the admin to reconfigure what are application spaces (thus
showing in the app panel) and what spaces should be hidden for simple users.
Of course modifying these would modify the WebPreferences of the said
spaces.
In addition to make this autodiscoverable I'd suggest that for admins the
Application Panel should have a link to this admin feature. Something like
"Configure Applications...".
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
PS: I'm very excited about these 2 ideas since they're simple and IMO will
make XE much easier to use and understand for people starting to use it.
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