21 Aug
2014
21 Aug
'14
11:10 a.m.
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 12:00 PM, vincent(a)massol.net <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
On 21 Aug 2014 at 10:57:36, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau (
gdelhumeau@xwiki.com(mailto:gdelhumeau@xwiki.com)) wrote:
That’s a good point, we need to agree which skin we’re discussing. AFAIK
we’re discussing Flamingo which is NOT a public web site skin. When we do a
public web site skin we would need to take this into consideration indeed.
We are discussing any default skin with Localization - Multilinguage - Yes.
If you don't want to use it with localization you just don't activate the
functionality.
My remark was that when discussing individual functionality is easy to want
to make each particular functionality pop. The real question is: are the
language markers more important than the Last modified author? More
important than the last modified time? Are they the same? Should language
mark compete with the other action buttons in the content menu? etc.
Anyway the fix for these problems is a 'standard'. In enumeration mode
(2.1.x) the language markers were links and displayed accordingly (2.1.2),
in select mode (2.2.x) they have a dropdown so they could be displayed as
buttons (2.2.1).
Thanks,
Caty
Hi
2014-08-21 9:58 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) :
> Hi,
>
> First of all we need to decide how prominent we want this
functionality to
> be.
> I would make it more transparent, since theoretically you should change
> your language preference just once (in the Administration, and per
user)
> and all the pages should be displayed
according to that preference.
This is
not
something that need to be highly visible and that you would change
every day.
It's not true on a public wiki (like Wikipedia).
Thanks
-Vincent
> IMO it's more important to be better
displayed when you want to
> create a new translation, than when you read one.
>
> Regarding the flag to represent languages you can read this comment
with
> additional information about why we
wouldn't do it like that
>
>
http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-9512?focusedCommentId=77895&page=com…
>
> Thanks,
> Caty
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Denis Gervalle wrote:
>
> > Hi Cathy,
> >
> > 2.1.1 is the one I prefer, 2.1.2 is also good but the separation
between
> > language should be more clear, and it
is less easy to see the active
> one. I
> > have no fear about the scaling issue, even heavily multilingual site
like
> > those of the European Commission use
such enumeration without issue.
And
> as
> > Guillaume said, it is really rare to have more than a few languages
> anyway.
> > Other proposal implies multiple click/touch for the same purpose,
which
> is
> > bad IMO for content. It is also important to only display effectively
> > available languages, but with an enum, it could be also good to have
the
> > option to also display unavailable one
greyed, so language keep their
> > location on screen.
> >
> > Regarding the UI language, 1.1 is fine, but maybe a bit large. Having
> only
> > initial in the bar would be better IMO. Having also a more fancy
> solution,
> > like what I have done with bluebird (see http://softec.lu), could be
> nice
> > to have as well... or a easy way to customize it that way with an
> > extension.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 5:34 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> > valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi devs,
> > >
> > > We have http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10745 (Improve the
display
> of
> > > available languages in Flamingo) which is related to
> > > http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-6402 (Separate Interface
language
> and
> > > page language settings)
> > >
> > > While in Flamingo we could just make the language links look
better,
> > > without changing the
functionality, for the future, the separation
is
> > > something we might want to tackle,
that's why I've created this
> proposal
> > > page
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/InterfaceAndContentLanguage…
> > >
> > > I am interested in what you think about the variants.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Caty
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