9 Sep
2009
9 Sep
'09
11:03 a.m.
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:52, Vincent Massol<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On Sep 9, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
Sure if they use an old skin not made for the new rule I don't see how
it would work...
Don't mix everything, backward compatibility is one thing but if the
rule now is that a page is supposed to have a real title and use first
level header for this then the default XE should follow this rule...
since it's the rule.
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 09:06, Vincent
Massol<vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
I don't agree. This would mean someone using 2.0 with Toucan couldn't
upgrade their XAR with the new stuff.
On Sep 8, 2009, at 7:31 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
We are not supposed to do backward compatibility on what we are
releasing... if XE is wrong for 2.0 it should be fixed. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 15:06, Thomas
Mortagne<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com
> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 14:48, Vincent Massol<vincent(a)massol.net>
> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> With Colibri we've started to display the doc title as the
>> document's
>> rendered title. This is a big change that not only affects Colibri
>> but
>> in general the way people write documents.
>>
>> Here's what I suggest:
>>
>> 1) Display doc titles with <div>
>> 2) Display document content headers using <h1>-<h6>
>> 3) Display doc titles with a larger font size than h1 (or h1
>> with a
>> smaller font size)
>
> +1 for all (i'm not sure for div since i'm not an html expert but
> the
> important point is that the page title and first level headers
> should
> have different style for sure)
>
>> 4) Force cursor to be in the title field when editing a new
>> document.
>> Force cursor in the content field when editing an existing
>> document.
>> This is to make it easy using the keyboard only to enter doc
>> titles
>> (since it's currently dead easy, we need something close in
>> easiness)
>> 5) Modify all our existing skins: Toucan, Albatross, Finch and
>> Dodo so
>> that they use they display the doc title, similarly to Colibri
>
> +1, as you says it's a totally new way of seeing document content
> so
> it should be applied to all skins.
>
>> 6) Have a title compatibility flag in xwiki.cfg. When active,
>> use a
>> Javascript to do this: if there's no title specified for a page
>> and if
>> the first content is a H1 then use it as the page's title.
Also this should be off by default since it's backward compatibility
and a wrong behavior in a normal new wiki.
There's one remaining problem Thomas with this: the default XAR will
not display properly. We would need to have 2 XARs for this to work:
one for backward compat and a new one, using titles. And this is a
pain to do IMO.
We don't want a new user to start XE and find that all titles are
duplicated by default with a clean wiki he hasn't touched.
WDYT?
-Vincent
--
Thomas Mortagne
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>>> Is the h1 hidden in this case ?
>>>
>>> 7) make the toc macro start at first header level instead of second
>>>
>>>>
>>>> We need at least 1), 3), 6) to be able to release the Colibri skin
>>>> for
>>>> 2.0 final IMO.
>>>>
>>>> WDYT?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> -Vincent
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