Hi,
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
  Hi everyone (devs and users),
 While we have a clear governance for write access to our source
 repository (
http://dev.xwiki.org), we're missing a clear governance
 for 
xwiki.org. The idea is to address mainly the following 2 questions:
 1) who "owns" it and thus "controls" (or rather provides direction
 for)  its content
 2) can it be used for business advertising (support, paid packages,
 consulting services)
 Bit of History about XWiki SAS
 ========================
 - XWiki SAS (
http://xwiki.com) is the company founded by Ludovic
 Dubost the creator of XWiki (I'm the CTO of XWiki SAS in addition to
 being a committer here).
 - Most of the active contributors are also employed and paid by XWiki
 SAS to develop the XWiki software. Today that's
 -- 12.5 committers (developers)
 -- 1 open source product manager (see
 
http://markmail.org/thread/ggaaw4u6yyci4oan
  for its definition)
 -- 1 designer
 -- 1 tester/technical writer
 - XWiki SAS sells services around the open source software, see
 
http://www.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Services/
 - XWiki SAS truly believes and understands open source, see
 
http://www.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/About/Values
 -- I also wrote a blog post on this some time back:
 
http://massol.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/XWikiSASAndOpenSource
 - XWiki SAS has promised "not to do evil" ;), see its manifesto at
 
http://www.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/About/Manifesto
 - XWiki SAS is paying for the servers and maintenance of 
xwiki.org,
 
myxwiki.org, the maven repo, the svn repo, the hudson build serversn
 the free JUG farm, and more
 Issue at hand
 ===========
 XWiki SAS would like to generate more revenue to be able to increase
 the development pace of the XWiki software. We'd like to fund even
 more the development of XWiki, so that it becomes an even better
 product. We've asked you what you'd like to see in the future in XWiki
 and you've answered on this survey result:
 
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/Features+Survey+Results
 We'd like to implement those features as fast as possible.
 For this we need to ensure that users interested in commercial
 services find easily the way to 
http://xwiki.com, even when they
 arrive on 
xwiki.org.
 This is true for XWiki SAS's services but also for any company willing
 to offer services around the XWiki open source project. There's no
 magic. Developers need to be paid when they work full time on some
 project. We need a commercial ecosystem around XWiki for it to
 progress as quickly as its competitors (the collaboration market). We
 need to allow for commercial companies the ability to generate revenue
 from their work on the XWiki open source project. However we also want
 to continue ensuring that all the XWiki development is done in open
 source, under a LGPL license.
 Governance Proposal
 =================
 1) 
xwiki.org is controlled by the XWiki committers. This means that
 important changes brought to it should be discussed/vote on the list,
 using the same practices as for code commits
 2) 
xwiki.org stays open in edit mode to all external contributors (and
 XWiki committers continue to monitor it to remove spam, etc)
 3) we agree to start with 3 zones where companies can advertise their
 commercial offers on top of the XWiki open source product:
 -- On the download page (for business packages, subscriptions, hosting)
 -- On the support page (for services: support, consulting)
 -- (still to be defined) Possibly on a "Products" tab in the new
 horizontal navigation. The idea would be to do as 
jboss.org is doing.
 Projects are open source and community and Products are commercial
 4) the company offerings are listed by their amount of contributions
 to the XWiki open source project. The company that contributes most
 (XWiki SAS today) gets the best spots (top of the list, bigger space)
 5) Companies who want to be listed should provide some proof of their
 contributions to the XWiki open source project
 6) XWiki SAS gets some acknowledgment for paying for the 
xwiki.org
 server/maintenance of it. Probably somewhere in the footer of the site
 or on side panel somewhere
 7) 
xwiki.org should always remain a site for the xwiki open source
 community
 Conclusion
 =========
 We want to stress that this proposal is not about XWiki SAS making a
 commercial takeover of the 
xwiki.org site.
 It's about recognizing that if the XWiki open source software
 progresses quickly today, it's thanks to contributors but also for a
 very large proportion to companies paying developers to work on it,
 either directly  (like XWiki SAS or other companies that have
 developers contributing) or indirectly (by paying for example XWiki
 SAS or other companies to work on specific features).
 It's also about recognizing that XWiki SAS is happy to see other
 companies willing to contribute to the progress of the XWiki open
 source project and thus to provide a place for these companies to be
 visible too.
 I hope that all our contributors but also users of the XWiki Open
 Source software will find this proposal acceptable and I welcome any
 feedback on it.
 
Sounds good to me.
Note: I work for XWiki SAS too. I'd love to get feedback from people outside
the company - Denis, Caleb, Pascal, Christophe, Jérémie, Ricardo and all the
others: it's time to join the discussion! ;-)
Guillaume
  Thanks
 -Vincent Massol
 Hat 1: XWiki SAS CTO
 Hat 2: XWiki committer
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