Re: [xwiki-devs] Legal notice for xwiki.org

On 07 Sep 2016, at 10:51, Eduard Moraru <enygma2002(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi, Don`t forget MouseFlow. Also, links to the services would probably be a good thing.

Thanks, Eduard On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.com>

> On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>

> >> >>> On 02 Sep 2016, at 14:32, Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I think we might also need to have a name like Paul is mentioning. In >>> France it's "Directeur de la publication". >>> I don't think it's ok that we only mention the company. As both

>> and >>> me are legal representatives of XWiki SAS any of our names would be ok > I >>> believe. >> >> I’ve already added a section about this. There’s no "Directeur de la >> publication". This is a community site where anyone can edit and

>> by a Governance page (linked). I’ve given names already about people

>> provide oversight, by linking to the active committers list (which > happens >> to be failing right now but that’s another matter, I need to fix it). >> >> Also, XWiki SAS is just hosting xwiki.org >> <https://r.clb.pt/r/e7fbebe91dd7e4fa8dd375f861ec71 > ce?d=http%3A%2F%2Fxwiki.org>. >> It doesn’t operate it. >> > > Indeed so we would be in the case of a non-commercial site: > > "dans le cas d'un site non commercial ou d'un blog d'un particulier, les > mentions légales doivent indiquer les nom, prénom, adresse et numéro de > téléphone du créateur du site et de l'hébergeur." > > which means me need to state the hoster (XWiki SAS + OVH) and the

> (pointing to the active commiters sounds good) > > > >> >>> Also given that we are hosted in France, I think we might need a

>>> version of this section, but I'm not sure if this is required or not. >> >> At least it’s not listed on https://www.service-public.fr/ >> professionnels-entreprises/vosdroits/F31228 >> <https://r.clb.pt/r/e7fbebe91dd7e4fa8dd375f861ec71 > ce?d=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.service-public.fr%2Fprofessionnels-entreprises% > 2Fvosdroits%2FF31228> >> >> And we can also add one when someone someone contacts us and ask us for >> one. Right now all our pages are in English so I’d rather keep it that > way >> if we can. >> > > Difficult to know if french language is implicit or not.. but indeed we

> keep it like that for now.. > > Ludovic > > >> >>> I >>> think that in french the valid link visible on any page or at least

>>> home page is "Mentions Legales". We might need to have the word in > French >>> even though the site is in english.. But again I haven't checked what > the >>> exact requirements are. Maybe we can find a document online that says >> what >>> to do for a english language site published in France. >> >> I think we’re fine for now. >> >> Thanks >> -Vincent >> >>> Ludovic >>> >>> Ludovic >>> >>> -- >>> *Ludovic Dubost* >>> *Founder and CEO* >>> ludovic(a)xwiki.com >>> skype: ldubost >>> Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org >> <https://r.clb.pt/r/e7fbebe91dd7e4fa8dd375f861ec71 > ce?d=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.ludovic.org> >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt; >> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> On 02 Sep 2016, at 14:12, Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt;

>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 02 Sep 2016, at 14:09, Paul Libbrecht &lt;paul(a)hoplahup.net&gt;

>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Note that each country has a different requirement for this kind > of >>>> page. >>>>>>>> Maybe this is a place to asllocate for all wikis? >>>>>>> Not sure I understand what you mean. This site is hosted in

>>>>>> And I was talking about extending to other countries but probably I >>>>>> should have started another thread. >>>>>>>> PS: in the http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/LegalNotice/ >> <https://r.clb.pt/r/e7fbebe91dd7e4fa8dd375f861ec71 > ce?d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xwiki.org%2Fxwiki%2Fbin%2Fview% > 2FMain%2FLegalNotice%2F> >> I >>>> see >>>>>>>> that you're talking of a cookie, which is probably EU-required. >>>> However, >>>>>>>> the text doesn't say that we set cookies from the start on; are

>> not >>>>>>>> doing that? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are we? >>>>>> Yes, we are. I just tried with an almost virgin firefox. It had no >>>>>> xwiki.org >> <https://r.clb.pt/r/e7fbebe91dd7e4fa8dd375f861ec71 > ce?d=http%3A%2F%2Fxwiki.org> >> cookies. >>>>>>> I thought the cookie was only created when you’re checking the >>>> “remember me” option. >>>>>> After I visited xwiki.org >> <https://r.clb.pt/r/e7fbebe91dd7e4fa8dd375f861ec71 > ce?d=http%3A%2F%2Fxwiki.org>'s >> home page I have cookies for: >>>>>> - xwiki.org >> <https://r.clb.pt/r/e7fbebe91dd7e4fa8dd375f861ec71 > ce?d=http%3A%2F%2Fxwiki.org> >> : >>>>>> - _cfduid (cloudflare loves tracking so as to protect against >> attackers) >>>>>> - JSESSIONID >>>>>> - _ga, _gat: Google analytics which we are using (not a very good >>>>>> example for the others!) >>>>>> - mf_user and some mf_xxx (maybe cloudflare?) >>>>> >>>>> ah yes I had forgotten about google analytics. Updating the legal >> notice >>>> page. Thanks! >>>> >>>> Done: >>>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/LegalNotice/ >> <https://r.clb.pt/r/e7fbebe91dd7e4fa8dd375f861ec71 > ce?d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xwiki.org%2Fxwiki%2Fbin%2Fview% > 2FMain%2FLegalNotice%2F> >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> -Vincent >>>> >>>>> -Vincent >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> So in addition to saying that we set cookies for any visit, we > should >>>>>> also that we let third-party service delivery companies also set >> cookies >>>>>> (Cloudflare Inc, Google Inc, and XX). >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul