19 Aug
2016
19 Aug
'16
9:08 a.m.
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 10:00 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
ok I’ve started.
3 things:
* I’ve started defining what we mean by a recommended app, see
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ExtensionCode/
RecommendedExtensions/
* I’ve processed the first 2 pages of the LT on the home page of e.x.o.
(ie the first 60 extensions) and I’ve marked 11 as recommended so far:
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ExtensionCode/
RecommendedExtensions/
* I’m hesitating for the following extensions. Specifically I need to know
what their authors think and whether they’re ok to support them actively. I
also don’t know them enough to know of their quality. Feel free to comment
on them.
- http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/
Recent+Blog+Entries+Macros/ ?
- needs cleaning
-
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/
SunkenFlamingoTheme/
- I wouldn't recommend themes, if we like it we could replace the default
(also in the future we should reduce the number of bundled themes)
Thanks,
Caty
- http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/RtForm/
- http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/
Realtime+Netflux+Frontend/
- http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/
Realtime+Netflux+Backend/
- http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/XQuiz/
- http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Condition+Macro/
- http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/
Suggest+LiveTable+Filter+Macro/
- http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Let%
27s+Encrypt+support/
- http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/
Derzelas+Script+Runner/
- http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/XCarousel/
- http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Wiki+
Analyzer+Application/
- http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Event+Listeners+
Administration/
- http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Filter+Script+API
Note: we will expose the filter app, should we also expose the API?
- http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/ZoneEdit+Macro
- http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/SVG+Rasterizing+API
- http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Trusted+Headers+
Authentication+Adapter
- http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/
Trusted+authentication+framework
- http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Mail+
address+encryptor
- http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/XWikiTube
- http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/XFF+Maven+Plugin
Note: wrong author!!!
- http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/
Rights+UI+Simplifier
Thanks
-Vincent
The result is here:
On 18 Aug 2016, at 19:36, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
I’m starting the work on this. BTW several of you have replied about EM
but this
mail was only for “e.x.o” FTM (see the subject).
The idea is to implement something similar to what Caty proposed at
http://markmail.org/message/cr5edm27qcag6n3q
I’m starting the work.
Thanks
-Vincent
> On 23 May 2016, at 10:39, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
>
> Hi devs,
>
> We have a lot of entries on extensions.xwiki.org (869 as of today) and
this
causes some problems for our users:
>
> P1) A lot of them are not of good quality (they don’t work with the
latest
versions, they are complex to use, they’ve not been updated for a
long time and are doing old and deprecated ways of doing things such as not
providing an entry in the Applications Panel for example, they’re not just
polished, etc) and this causes frustrations for our users. Note that this
also reflects on the overall quality of the XWiki project and product.
>
> P2) It’s hard for users to locate good extensions among the rest.
>
> We’ve started addressing P1) by introducing ratings on e.x.o. This is
not
fully successful so far because we don’t have enough people voting and
because those ratings are not used to display/filter extensions on the
Extensions LT or inside XWiki in the EM UI. So we need to continue this
effort.
>
> Note that this proposal is not addressing non-extensions such as
snippets
which we’ll need to move elsewhere at some point but that becomes
less important with the proposal below.
>
> Proposal
> =======
>
> I’d like to propose an additional strategy that, IMO, is better suited
for the
size of our community: curation. Curation is the process of
hand-selecting the best extensions and marking them as recommended. The
idea would be to list recommended extensions first on the e.x.o home page,
in the EM UI in XWiki and even in extension search results. In the EM UI,
an idea would also be to have a new “Recommended Extensions” filter in
addition to the existing filters (core extensions, installed extensions,
etc) and that would be the default filter on the “Add Extensions” UI.
>
> I propose to add a “Recommended” xproperty in the Repository app for
that. We
can decide whether we want this just for e.x.o or committed in the
Repository app in xwiki-platform.
>
> Then we need to decide about the curation process:
>
> * The XWiki core committers are in charge (i.e. have the
responsibility) of
monitoring the apps that are marked “Recommended”, ie.
validating that it’s done correctly. XWiki core committers have the
authorization to unset an app that was marked a recommended by a community
member.
> * We wouldn’t offer a simple way in the UI to
mark an extension as
recommended since we don’t want everyone who has an account on
xwiki.org
to start marking apps as recommended. OTOH we want to allow people from the
xwiki community to help out. So the way to mark an extension as recommended
would be to use the object editor (for now, we can define a better
implementation mechanism later on).
> * We define some basic rules that extensions
need to follow at minimum
to be accepted as recommended. These will be our
guidelines to avoid
conflict of opinions (although there’s always the possibility in which case
it’s resolved through a vote):
> - Need to work on LTS + latest XWiki version
(ie. ATM that would be
7.4.x and 8.1)
> - Need to present a polished aspect and be
easily usable
> - Need to follow most of the best practices defined on
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/
ApplicationDevelopmentBestPractices. Some important examples: technical
pages are hidden, extension is registered in the app bar when it makes
sense, extension is internationalized (if it makes sense), pages are in
xwiki syntax 2.0+.
>
> WDYT?
>
> I’m willing to help do the work and mark extensions as recommended.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
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