The mockups page has been divided into 3:
* Mockups for GadgetsIntegration - General [3]
* Mockups for GadgetsIntegration - Proposal 1 [4]
* Mockups for GadgetsIntegration - Proposal 2 [5]
Feedback and new ideas are very welcome
Thanks!
Anamaria
[0] -
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/GadgetIntegration
[1] -
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/GadgetIntegration#HProposal1Gadg…
[2] -
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/GadgetIntegration#HProposal2Mult…
[3] -
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegration
[4] -
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegrationPropo…
[5] -
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegrationPropo…
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Jerome Velociter <jerome(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
On 12/8/09 10:02 AM, Anamaria Stoica wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Vincent Massol<vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
>
>> On Dec 7, 2009, at 11:21 PM, Anamaria Stoica wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> To address Caty's feedback on
>>>
>>>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegration(than…
<
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegration%28th…
>>> Caty!):
>>>
>>> 1. Should Google Gadgets also be able to add on the side menus?
>>> (where the
>>> Panels currently are)
>>>
>>> I think users should be able to do this also.
>>>
>>> If so, it would make sense to also have a Gadgets macro (not only a
>>> dashboard macro). But how would it be connected to the dashboard
>>> macro? Can
>>> the content of a macro be other macros? Something like:
>>> {{dashboard}}
>>> {{gadget ../}}{{gadget ../}}{{gadget ../}}
>>> {{gadget ../}}
>>> {{gadget ../}}
>>> {{/dashboard}}
>>> , where each row is a stack(column) of the dashboard.
>>>
>> Yes that's very easy to do technically. One simple way is to allow
>> wiki content inside the dashboard macro. Then it's a one liner to
>> support it.
>>
>> Question: What would the dashboard macro do? Is it just for layout? In
>> which case I'd rather have a more generic {{layout}} macro that can be
>> used or not be used at will. Or even use the {{column}} macro that we
>> need to write in 2.0 syntax. See:
>> -
http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Macros/ColumnMacro
>> -
http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Macros/DisplayPanelLayoutMacro
>>
>>
> The dashboard should contain the gadgets on 3 columns, and support
drag&drop
> for them, like here:
>
http://gsoc.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Google+Gadget+and+OpenSocial+Integra…
> or on iGoogle.
>
> Now, it's not clear whether the window of the gadget should be part of
the
> Dashboard or the Gadget's macro.
>
> Supporting drag&drop, the windows must be subclasses of isc.Window,
placed
> inside a isc.VStack subclass,
> which are placed inside a isc.HLayout subclass. (the last 2 obviously
being
part of
the Layout of the Dashboard)
(isc.Window, isc.VStack, isc.HLayout are classes in the SmartClient
library).
Question: are we sure we want to implement it with SmartClient? Isn't it
overkill ?
> But the Gadgets outside of a Dashboard don't need to be placed inside
> isc.Window's, as they don't need drag&drop.
>
> How can the container of a Gadget be chosen depending on where it's
placed
> (into a Dashboard, on a side menu Panel),
> if the window is not part of the Layout?
>
> About DisplayPanelLayoutMacro&Column macros:
> I think that a kind of DisplayPanelLayoutMacro in combination with a
kind of
ColumnMacro would work just fine.
for the record, I wrote a first draft of a column macro for syntax 2.0
in the contrib sandbox :
http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/contrib/sandbox/xwiki-rendering-macro-co…
(it's actually two macro, {{section}} and
{{column}} that work together,
you can read it as an example).
Jerome.
> I say a kind of, because the DisplayPanelLayoutMacro would have to
create a
> isc.HLayout object and the ColumnMacro
> a isc.VLayout object.
>
> But I'd rather use just one simple macro using the combination of the 2
> mentioned above called dashboard.
>
>
>
>
>>> 2. "The thing is that we need to think about the functional
>>> duplication of
>>> the Panel Wizard and the new Dashboard." Caty
>>>
>>> <http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/AnamariaStoica>
>>> Yes, we need to think about the interface for (Gadgets&XWiki)
Gadgets
>>> Directory and Panel Wizard.
>>>
>>> What would their roles be? Their content? (One would add Google
>>> Gadgets/Panels to Dashboard macros, the other to side menus...?)
>>>
>>> Is one interface enough for Dashboard Gadgets and Panels? If so, how
>>> would
>>> it look like? (where to put it, Panel Wizard is in Admin interface)
>>>
>>> Also, should the Gadgets Directory support adding gadgets to any
>>> Dashboard
>>> macro in any page, or just to personal dashboard?
>>>
>> I think Gadgets and Panels should be one and the same, unless there's
>> a difference I don't see. The only difference I can think of is the
>> source of the content but it's easy to make that generic.
>>
>> Another idea is to consider the panel as only the outside shell/box
>> and inside the panel it should be possible to put wiki syntax,
>> including a gadget representation. Thus everything would be a panel.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Anamaria
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Anamaria Stoica<
anam.stoica(a)gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Ludovic Dubost<ludovic(a)xwiki.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This should go beyond user profiles. Space home pages but any page
>>>>> should be able to be dashboard pages.
>>>>> For these pages we would need a way to make them display as
>>>>> dashboard
>>>>> pages by default.
>>>>>
>>>>> We should also make it easy to make these pages dashboard pages
>>>>> when in
>>>>> the wysiwyg. Like include a "dashboard" macro.
>>>>>
>>>>> I view it like that:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1/ Open a page in wysiwyg
>>>>> 2/ Type some text, include a dashboard macro
>>>>> 3/ Save
>>>>>
>>>>> When in view the dashboard macro renders the dashboard settings
>>>>> saved in
>>>>> the content field of the dashboard macro or in XWiki objects save
>>>>> in the
>>>>> page.
>>>>> It adds JS tools to allow to move and change your gadgets and panels
>>>>> used in your dashboard.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Gadgets on the iGoogle panel also have an Edit Settings action on
>>>> the top
>>>> right
>>>> corner of every gadget, which opens a form with settings for that
>>>> gadget.
>>>>
>>>> Question:
>>>> If one user changes these settings, should they be visible to
>>>> everyone, or
>>>> just to the
>>>> user editing them? (this way different users will see the gadgets
>>>> with
>>>> different settings
>>>> for the same dashboard)
>>>>
>>>> On the personal dashboard is obvious that only you get to change
>>>> them, and
>>>> maybe view
>>>> the dashboard,
>>>> but what about any dashboard added as a macro on a regular page?
>>>>
>>>> I think the changes should be visible to everyone with view rights
>>>> on the
>>>> page, and
>>>> the settings editable for everyone with edit rights on the same page.
>>>>
>>>> WDYT?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> With this method we might not need the xpage=dashboard template,
>>>>> as you
>>>>> could just have an #if in the XWikiUserSheet which displays the
>>>>> dashboard based on URL params.
>>>>> The #if would make a call to the XWiki {{dashboard}} macro
>>>>>
>>>>> Ludovic
>>>>>
>>>>> Anamaria Stoica a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi devs,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to start working on Gadgets Integration. (this is a
new
>>>>>>
>>>>> feature)
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been working on the specs with Guillaume, and you can
see the
>>>>>>
>>>>> Design
>>>>>
>>>>>> page here:
>>>>>>
>>
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/GadgetIntegration
>>
>>>>>> The aim of the gadget integration is to provide XWiki users with
a
>>>>>> dashboard-like page that will display a list of gadgets. These
>>>>>> gadgets
>>>>>>
>>>>> can
>>>>>
>>>>>> be either internal gadgets (similar to XWiki panels) or external
>>>>>> gadgets
>>>>>> (coming from the Google Gadget repository for instance). Users
can
>>>>>>
>>>>> select
>>>>>
>>>>>> which gadgets to display on their dashboard from a gadget
directory
>>>>>>
>>>>> located
>>>>>
>>>>>> on the wiki.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've also created a few Mockups here
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegrationfor
>>>>> the Dashboard, Gadget Windows and Gadgets Directory.
>>>>>
>>>>> List of features:
>>>>> Dashboard
>>>>> - Dashboard for each user with drag&drop for Gadget Windows
>>>>> - Display both Google Gadgets and XWiki Gadgets (Panels)
>>>>> Directory
>>>>> - An internal directory with Gadgets in the wiki divided in 3
>>>>> parts:
>>>>> * XWiki Gadgets defined in the wiki / in the farm (current
>>>>>
>>>> Panels)
>>>>
>>>>> * Google Gadgets selected out of the global Google
>>>>> Directory by
>>>>>
>>>> wiki
>>>>
>>>>> admins
>>>>> * If allowed by wiki admins: full Google Gadgets Directory
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to include all of the above with basic functionalities
>>>>> into
>>>>>
>>>> 2.2M1.
>>>>
>>>>> One thing is not clear at this point>> The relationship
between
>>>>> XWiki
>>>>> Gadgets and current Panels:
>>>>>
>>>>> They are basically the same thing (same content), but they will
>>>>> have
>>>>> different containers (drag&drop window with edit settings on
>>>>> Dashboard
>>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>> present containers for the side menu Panels).
>>>>>
>>>>> Will all Panels make sense as XWiki Gadgets? If no, when a new
>>>>> Panel is
>>>>> created, how do you know it's meant to be only a side menu Panel
>>>>> and not
>>>>> also a XWikiGadget? (this applies for current Panels as well)
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, very important: where should the interface for the Gadgets
>>>>>
>>>> Directory
>>>>
>>>>> be placed? Appended to Panels.WebHome or new directory
>>>>> Gadgets.WebHome?
>>>>>
>>>> In
>>>>
>>>>> my opinion it needs a different interface from the Panel Wizard
>>>>>
>>>> Interface.
>>>>
>>>>> The Panel Wizard is in the Wiki Preferences (administration
>>>>> space) open
>>>>>
>>>> only
>>>>
>>>>> to Admins, but the Directory will have to be available to all users
>>>>>
>>>> (even
>>>>
>>>>> browsable by everyone).
>>>>>
>>>>> An admin interface for picking Google Gadgets from iGoogle
>>>>> Directory
>>>>>
>>>> and/or
>>>>
>>>>> XWiki Panels for the Gadgets Directory might be needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> How should I treat the 2 of them (XWiki Gadgets vs side menu
>>>>> Panels)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Anamaria
>>>>>
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