Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Introduce a 'Create' entry in the menu

Hi, On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote: I like the idea. I've got a couple remarks though. The action bar is meant to be contextual to the current page - to hold actions related to the current page. This will be made clearer once we move the action bar closer to the content area. Therefore we should make clear that the create button does stuff related to the current page by: - renaming "Page" into "Child page" - make sure that the created page has the current one set as its parent - renaming "Page from Office Document" into "Child page from Office Document" - make sure that the created page has the current page as its parent (might require a couple changes to the OOImporter XApplication) Making the created page a child of the current page has at least 3 benefits: - it respects the wiki philosophy that pages should always be linked together (no orphan pages) - it is consistent with other action bars action (creating a child page is related to the current page) - it makes it easier to create a tree-like navigation structure (we often do that on wiki pages: create a new page that links towards a set of pages) - we could also introduce a {{childrenpages /}} macro to make the creation of tree stuctures even easier I've purposedly not included the "Create space" button for 2 reasons: - it doesn't fit with the "related to the current page" rule - spaces are high-level items and they have a specific role in XWiki Creating a new space without knowing which spaces already exist makes it easy to create "Space clutter" (we experience it on our intranet for instance). Right now, the home page (through the Dashboard) already displays the list of spaces in the wiki and provides a "create new space" button. I think this button is enough to provide an interface for new space creation and that it doesn't have to be duplicated on every page for the reasons set out above. I've got another semantic question: should we use "Create" or "Add" (or something else)? - Create - "create whild page" - "create child page from Office Document" - Add - "add child page" - "add child page from Office Document" My gut feeling is that "add" sounds better (I can't really give a rational reason) thus I'd like to get other people's feedback about it. Definitely. Thanks, Guillaume -- Guillaume Lerouge Product Manager - XWiki Skype: wikibc Twitter: glerouge http://guillaumelerouge.com/