Re: [xwiki-devs] Feedback from a novice user

Oh excellent, we need more tests like this! On 07/02/2014 01:58 PM, vincent(a)massol.net wrote: organize a party with a list of people to invite. terminology of ‘“spaces”. Especially since the English wording said “sorted by spaces”. sentence explaining what a space is. This Wiki is made of /pages/ which are grouped into /spaces/, kind of like documents are organized in folders.

existing spaces. where she would put her new page. do anything since she was already on the main space) the understood that it was where she was already list to make it clear on what space the user is currently on "You Are Here" stuff after reading the content. She clicked on”Sandbox Test Page 1” and found the edit button and started typing some text and saving the page. It worked fine but she understood that this wan’t her missing since I had asked her to create a new page… at the top. Actually I was surprised that she used those menus to navigate very quickly and it did not seem to be an issue. of her mission but she wanted to try it out, Strangely she picked the “group” item in the visibility box and then started typing my name. It did print “Group not found” and she understood she had done something wrong but still clicked “share”. discussed already Too much information too early? Maybe time to look at hiding things in submenus. do that. Then after asking her to look better at the UI she found the “Add” button and clicked “Add Page”. Again the issue with “space”. It was written “Main” and she didn’t fully understand that and started typing here own content in there “anniv MAM !!” and then in the page name she put “liste invités” and clicked create. I’m not sure what happened after (I don’t recall) but she clicked on the space menu entry at the top (which was displaying “anniv MAM !!”) and this led her to the WebHome page with a message saying that the page didn’t exist and she clicked on “edit” in that message to create it. She wondered why it was written “WebHome” in the title field and why she had to type again “liste invités” there but she did it and added content to the page and saved. Then she was surprised to see in the top menu “WebHome”. She didn’t understand that. She w as expecting to see “liste invités”. This is a huge bug, I usually create a WebHome with the content {{include document="Main.SpaceIndex" /}} But we should catch DocumentCreateEvent and do this automatically if it is not done. she couldn’t find how. Actually the saw the “My Recent Modifications” panel but told me that this was ok because she had just edited the pages but if that wouldn’t have been the case she wouldn’t be able to navigate. She clicked several times on the menu entries at the top (wiki, space and page level) but never thought about clicking the little arrows there… When I asked her she said she saw those arrows but didn’t think it would do any good clicking them. Actually she told me that she was puzzle by those top menu names. She said she would have preferred to see “Spaces” and “Pages” with the arrows next to them and then she would have clicked on them to see all the spaces and all the pages. navigation panel or change the way the top menu works) +1 I use "My Recent Modifications" constantly to find stuff. imagine how to do that. Then I asked her “what would you do if I asked you to put some of the text you created in bold” and she understood that she had to edit the page… to be her own content. (XE 6.1) http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10586 and hit backspace… resulting in navigating to the previous page in the browser. Her rationale: she had clicked edit first so she thought she was in edit mode… and hit backspace… resulting in the whole include macro being removed… Then she didn’t understand what happened… displayed with technical explanations that confused her and same problem as with option 1 anyway. understand why when she clicked edit she wasn’t in the standard edit view (as with other pages she had edited before). I tuned the text leading to http://jira.xwiki.org/secure/attachment/28082/step2.png and thereafter she could use it just fine. better understand how newcomers think when they see XWiki. To summarize we need to: already known concept. I had the same immediate reaction but since we still have traces of "Web", we should probably swallow hard and accept that we need to explain what a "Space" is. confusing for the user): top menu, index livetables, etc

This is going to run us into a performance issue since titles are often computed.

top level menu or introducing some navigation panels) +1 as navigation only whereas it’s not fully and thus it’s not obvious that it contains actions that can be done at a given level (because it displays the current position and not generic terms such as “spaces”, “pages”. +1 for changing it, there are enough visual queues of where you are. Thanks, Caleb _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs