Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Gadgets Integration

17 Dec 2009

Hi,

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Anamaria Stoica &lt;anam.stoica(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote;wrote:

...
  On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Guillaume Lerouge
&lt;guillaume(a)xwiki.com
 wrote: 
 > Hi
 >
 > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Anamaria Stoica &lt;anam.stoica(a)gmail.com
 > wrote:  >
 > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea <
 > > mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote:
 > >
 > > > Guillaume Lerouge wrote:
 > > > > Hi,
 > > > >
 > > > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea <
 > > > > mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote:
 > > > >
 > > > >> Guillaume Lerouge wrote:
 > > > >>> Hi,
 > > > >>>
 > > > >>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Anamaria Stoica <
 > > > anam.stoica(a)gmail.com
 > > > >>> wrote:
 > > > >>>
 > > > >>>> Hi devs,
 > > > >>>>
 > > > >>>> I restructured a bit the Design page for Gadgets
Integration
 [0].
  I
 > > >>>> introduced 2 new sections called 'Main Elements' and
'Full
 > Proposals'.
 > > >>>>
 > > >>>> The 'Main Elements' section describes the general
elements which
 > would
 > > >>>> be needed/affected by the integration like the Dashboard,
 Gadgets
  > > >>>> Directory, Gadget
Macros and Panel Wizard, providing several
 > > >>>> implementation options for each of them.
 > > >>>>
 > > >>>> The next section 'Full Proposals' describes entire
solutions for
 > > >>>> Gadgets integration (the full story), by combining 
implementation
    >>>> options for each element defined in
the 'Main Elements' section.
 >>>>
 >>>> Right now there are only 2 Proposals:
 >>>> * Proposal 1 - Gadgets added on Dashboards through Gadgets 
Directory,
 > >>>> and not WYSIWYG Insert Macro Dialog [1]
 > >>>> * Proposal 2 - Multiple Macros - each XWiki&Google Gadget as
its  own
 > > >> Macro
 > > >>>> [2]
 > > >>>> , but other may be proposed by mixing other element options in
 the
  > > >>>> 'Main
Elements' section or introducing new ones. For example,
 > Proposal
 > > >>>> 1 could be modified to also use an extended WYSIWYG Insert
Macro
 > > >>>> dialog for gadgets.
 > > >>>>
 > > >>> I think an important bit of information that we're missing
here  is
  an
  > >>> evaluation of how long would
either way take to implement. I'd be  in
 > > >> favor
 > > >>> of going for Proposal 2 if the WYSIWYG dialog boxes were easier
 to
   >
>> extend.
 > >>> However I'm afraid this is going to be a daunting task if done
 today.
  > >>>
 > >>> Thus for now I'm +1 for Proposal 1 (the downside being that we
 > introduce
 > >>> some duplication between macros and gadgets).
 > >> Hmm, IMO it is exactly the opposite. If gadgets are imported as 
macros
  > >> then the WYSIWYG editor doesn't
have to know about gadgets and  doesn't
 > > >> have to be extended. If we implement a single generic gadget-macro
 > then
 > > >> it will require special handling from the WYSIWYG editor.
 > > >>
 > > >> I'm more for unifying the notion of gadget, panel or macro, thus
 I'm
  > > >> more for proposal 2.
 > > >>
 > > >
 > > > Ideally that's also what I would go for. I just want to be sure 
we're
   not
 > > launching ourselves into a daunting initiative.
 > >
 >
 > > Marius, if there's one macro per gadget, how do you create a 
dashboard
 > > > (dashboard macro + a macro for every gadget) through the WYSIWYG?
 > >
 > > I see what you mean. So gadgets are supposed to work only inside a
 > > dashboard? The idea of importing gadgets as macros was, I think, to  be
  > > able to use gadgets anywhere.
 > >
 >
 >
 > For Proposal 2, Gadgets are macros, and the Dashboard is also a macro.
 > Gadgets should
 > work anywhere AND inside dashboards, if added that way. You would  either
  > have (more or less):
 > {{dashboard}} {{gadgetName1 .../}} {{gadgetName2 .../}} {{/dashboard}}  -
  > when inserted inside dashboards
 > or directly:
 > {{gadgetName1 .../}} - inserted anywhere
 >
 > The dashboard macro would only group the gadgets, on columns and  support

drag&drop for them. (like a
 more advanced container)

 Marius, to see what Guillaume is saying about extending the WYSIWYG  Insert
  Macro Dialog, can
 you look at: ?
  * Insert any Macro-Gadget:

http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegrationPropo…
  >    - here I put a Preview for the
Macro-Gadget on the left, while  editing
   the macro
properties
 and
  * Insert Dashboard Macro:

http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegrationPropo…
  >   - here the preview of the Dashboard
displays a mini preview with  small
   boxes for
where the gadgets would go (but no content rendered), and an  'Add
  Gadgets' button, which would open yet another
'Insert Macro Dialog'

 Another option would be to drop the part with extending the WYSIWYG  editor
 > (pretty as it is in the Mockups) and simply insert the Macro-Gadgets  like
  > it's done now (no preview). Then the
user would go in view mode, and  edit
   the user
preferences for the gadget (from here:

http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegration#HGoo…
  > ).
 > But this should evolve into the proposal above, as I think it's not  user
  > friendly at all...
 >
 > Now, my question is how would Inserting Macro-Gadgets inside a  Dashboard
   Macro
would work in this case (no WYSIWYG extended)? (from the user's  point
  of view) 

 I think the correct option for now is a mix of stuff that was said  before:

   - Gadgets are created as macros
   - The wiki admin can select a gadget, click on "turn it into a macro" 
and
    the gadget "magically" becomes a
XWiki macro
   - If the whole Google gadget repository is available for users, it  means
    that any user can turn a gadget into a XWiki
macro

 Agree. All of the above make sense

    - We rewrite existing panels to use macros to
generate their output

 Do you mean here to transform all Panels into Macros and to change the
 content field
 of all Panels.PanelClass objects to use the corresponding macros (thus
 keeping also
 all the Panels)? I don't see the point of Panels if so, they look like
 generic containers

Yes, that's what I mean. Indeed, in this case panels would simply become
generic containers. They could be renamed to LeftPanel1, LeftPanel2,
RightPanel3 or whatever.

...
  How would the Panel Wizard look like? (see Options 1,
2, 3 for Panel Wizard
 on Design
 page
 http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/GadgetIntegration#HPanelWizard)

Option 1) Panels become only empty containers with no content (empty shells)

Also, Marius, Option 3 tries to open an Insert Macro Dialog box to insert a
...
  macro from
 outside the WYSIWYG (by clicking 'Add Gadget' button in the interface),
 would that
 work? (or something similar...). If not, the macros could still be added to
 the
 panels (empty containers) through the Macros Directory (Option 1)

I've seen someone attempt to do this in the past. It can be done (it
basically looks like the macro insertion dialog box overlayed on the current
screen). It could be an option instead of going through the gadget
repository (same effect in practice).

...
    - We create a macro repository at
.../bin/view/Macros/WebHome
    - We add a "Create macro" form in the
repository where the user can
   choose between:
      - Create a wiki macro
      - Create a macro from a Google gadget
   - Gadgets are thus usable through macros and can be added from the
   WYSIWYG

 Agree

    - The {{dashboard}} macro has the following
parameters: "how many boxes
   to display?" "personal or public dashboard?"
      - When the {{dashboard}} macro is used into a page, each display box
      has an "edit" link
      - Clicking on that link send the user to a special dialog box where
      she selects which macro to use in the box (through the macro
 repository and
      not through the WYSIWYG)

 Additional no of boxes parameter makes the users think of something they
 shouldn't
 at this point. The way I think about a dashboard is a place where you add
 stuff or
 delete stuff as you please, without thinking/planing in advance about it.

 If you still have to go to the View action to add gadgets on the dashboard,
 then the
 solution with just one 'Add more gadgets>>' button at the top I think is
 better and sufficient.
 (see

http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegrationPropo…
 )

Agreed.

Guillaume

Still why is it not possible to add other macros inside the dashboard macro
...
  while
 still in the WYSIWYG editor?

As Marius pointed it out in his previous email, this would require a serious
refactoring of the WYSIWYG which is not a priority right now.

...
    - Since panels are individual documents, choosing
which macros to put in
    them can be done through the WYSIWYG

 See question above about Panels and Panel Wizard

  This has all the advantages and few of the
problems of various other
 implementations:

   - All the data is generated through macros (be it a list of XWiki pages
   or a Google World Clock)
   - All macros get grouped together in a repository
   - Macro creation is easier and centralized
   - Panels are only here for display purposes
   - {{dashboard}} macro is a specific displayer only
  All sound good

 Anamaria

 WDYT?

 Guillaume

 > > If we have a dashboard macro containing multiple gadget macros then  we
  > > hit the same problem as with any other
nested macros (e.g. HTML  inside
   >
velocity). The WYSIWYG editor needs to be improved so that macro  content
 > > is edited also in rich text mode (if supported). But this is not  going
  > > to happen too soon, unless we raise its
priority.
 > >
 > > >
 > > > An option is to have the following behavior: as soon as one gadget
 > macro
 > > is
 > > > added to a page, a dashboard is implicitly created. The WYSIWYG
 > actually
 > > > also becomes a dashboard creator. However I'm not sure we could 
have
   >
gadget
 > > drag & drop reordering right in the WYSIWYG editor, could we?
 >
 > I don't think so. Sounds too complicated.
 >
 > Marius
 >
 > >
 > > Guillaume
 > >
 > >
 > >> Thanks,
 > >> Marius
 > >>
 > >>> Guillaume
 > >>>
 > >>>
 > >>>> The mockups page has been divided into 3:
 > >>>> * Mockups for GadgetsIntegration - General [3]
 > >>>> * Mockups for GadgetsIntegration - Proposal 1 [4]
 > >>>> * Mockups for GadgetsIntegration - Proposal 2 [5]
 > >>>>
 > >>>> Feedback and new ideas are very welcome
 > >>>>
 > >>>> Thanks!
 > >>>> Anamaria
 > >>>>
 > >>>> [0] - 
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/GadgetIntegration

>>>> [1] -
 >>>>
 >>

http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/GadgetIntegration#HProposal1Gadg…
    >>>> [2] -
 >>>>
 >>

http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/GadgetIntegration#HProposal2Mult…
  > > >>>> [3] -
 > > >>>>
 > > 
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegration
    >>>> [4] -
 >>>>
 >>

http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegrationPropo…
    >>>> [5] -
 >>>>
 >>

http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegrationPropo…
   >
>>>>
 > >>>>
 > >>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Jerome Velociter < 
jerome(a)xwiki.com

 >>>> wrote:
 >>>>> On 12/8/09 10:02 AM, Anamaria Stoica wrote:
 >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Vincent Massol< 
vincent(a)massol.net&gt;
  >>>>  wrote:
 >>>>>>> On Dec 7, 2009, at 11:21 PM, Anamaria Stoica wrote:
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> Hi,
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> To address Caty's feedback on
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>
 >>

http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegration(than…
 <
 http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegration%28th…

  <

http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegration%28th…

 >>>> <
 >>>>
 >>

http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegration%28th…
   >
>>>>>>>> Caty!):
 > >>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>> 1. Should Google Gadgets also be able to add on the
side  menus?

>>>>>>>> (where the
 >>>>>>>> Panels currently are)
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> I think users should be able to do this also.
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> If so, it would make sense to also have a Gadgets macro
(not  only
 > a
 > >>>>>>>> dashboard macro). But how would it be connected to
the  dashboard
 > > >>>>>>>> macro? Can
 > > >>>>>>>> the content of a macro be other macros?
Something like:
 > > >>>>>>>> {{dashboard}}
 > > >>>>>>>> {{gadget ../}}{{gadget ../}}{{gadget ../}}
 > > >>>>>>>> {{gadget ../}}
 > > >>>>>>>> {{gadget ../}}
 > > >>>>>>>> {{/dashboard}}
 > > >>>>>>>> , where each row is a stack(column) of the
dashboard.
 > > >>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>> Yes that's very easy to do technically. One
simple way is to
 > allow
 > > >>>>>>> wiki content inside the dashboard macro. Then
it's a one  liner
  to
 > > >>>>>>> support it.
 > > >>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>> Question: What would the dashboard macro do? Is it
just for
 > layout?
 > > >> In
 > > >>>>>>> which case I'd rather have a more generic
{{layout}} macro  that
  > can
 > > >> be
 > > >>>>>>> used or not be used at will. Or even use the
{{column}} macro
 > that
 > > we
 > > >>>>>>> need to write in 2.0 syntax.  See:
 > > >>>>>>> -
http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Macros/ColumnMacro
 > > >>>>>>> -
 > > >> 
http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Macros/DisplayPanelLayoutMacro
   >
>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>> The dashboard should contain the gadgets on 3 columns, and
 support

>>>> drag&drop
 >>>>>> for them, like here:
 >>>>>>
 >>

http://gsoc.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Google+Gadget+and+OpenSocial+Integra…
    >>>>>> or on iGoogle.
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> Now, it's not clear whether the window of the gadget should
be  part
  of
 >>>> the
 >>>>>> Dashboard or the Gadget's macro.
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> Supporting drag&drop, the windows must be subclasses of
 isc.Window,
  >>>> placed
 >>>>>> inside a isc.VStack subclass,
 >>>>>> which are placed inside a isc.HLayout subclass. (the last 2
 obviously
 >>>> being
 >>>>>> part of the Layout of the Dashboard)
 >>>>>> (isc.Window, isc.VStack, isc.HLayout are classes in the 
SmartClient
  >>>>>> library).
 >>>>>>
 >>>>> Question: are we sure we want to implement it with SmartClient?
 Isn't
  >> it
 >>>>> overkill ?
 >>>>>> But the Gadgets outside of a Dashboard don't need to be
placed
 inside
 >>>>>> isc.Window's, as they don't need drag&drop.
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> How can the container of a Gadget be chosen depending on where
 it's
 > >>>> placed
 > >>>>>> (into a Dashboard, on a side menu Panel),
 > >>>>>> if the window is not part of the Layout?
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> About DisplayPanelLayoutMacro&Column macros:
 > >>>>>> I think that a kind of DisplayPanelLayoutMacro in
combination  with
  a
 > >>>> kind of
 > >>>>>> ColumnMacro would work just fine.
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>> for the record, I wrote a first draft of a column macro for
 syntax
   2.0
 >>>>> in the contrib sandbox :
 >>>>>
 >>>>>
 >>

http://svn.xwiki.org/svnroot/xwiki/contrib/sandbox/xwiki-rendering-macro-co…
  > > >>>>> (it's actually
two macro, {{section}} and {{column}} that work
 > > >> together,
 > > >>>>> you can read it as an example).
 > > >>>>>
 > > >>>>> Jerome.
 > > >>>>>> I say a kind of, because the DisplayPanelLayoutMacro
would  have
  to
  > >>>> create a
 > >>>>>> isc.HLayout object and the ColumnMacro
 > >>>>>> a isc.VLayout object.
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> But I'd rather use just one simple macro using the
combination  of
   the
 >> 2
 >>>>>> mentioned above called dashboard.
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> 2. "The thing is that we need to think about the
functional
 >>>>>>>> duplication of
 >>>>>>>> the Panel Wizard and the new Dashboard." Caty
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> < 
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/AnamariaStoica
 > >
 > >>>>>>>>   Yes, we need to think about the interface for
 (Gadgets&XWiki)
  > >>>> Gadgets
 > >>>>>>>> Directory and Panel Wizard.
 > >>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>> What would their roles be? Their content? (One
would add  Google
  > >>>>>>>>
Gadgets/Panels to Dashboard macros, the other to side  menus...?)
  > >>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>> Is one interface enough for Dashboard Gadgets and
Panels? If  so,
  > how
 > >>>>>>>> would
 > >>>>>>>> it look like? (where to put it, Panel Wizard is in
Admin
 > interface)
 > >>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>> Also, should the Gadgets Directory support adding
gadgets to  any
 > > >>>>>>>> Dashboard
 > > >>>>>>>> macro in any page, or just to personal
dashboard?
 > > >>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>> I think Gadgets and Panels should be one and the
same, unless
 > > there's
 > > >>>>>>> a difference I don't see. The only difference
I can think of  is
  > the
 > > >>>>>>> source of the content but it's easy to make
that generic.
 > > >>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>> Another idea is to consider the panel as only the
outside
 > shell/box
 > > >>>>>>> and inside the panel it should be possible to put
wiki  syntax,
    >>>>>>> including a gadget
representation. Thus everything would be a
 panel.
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>>> Thanks
 >>>>>>> -Vincent
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> Thanks,
 >>>>>>>> Anamaria
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Anamaria Stoica<
 >>>> anam.stoica(a)gmail.com
 >>>>>>>>> wrote:
 >>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Ludovic Dubost<
 ludovic(a)xwiki.org
 > >
 > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
 > >>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>> This should go beyond user profiles. Space
home pages but  any
 > > page
 > > >>>>>>>>>> should be able to be dashboard pages.
 > > >>>>>>>>>> For these pages we would need a way to
make them display  as
  > >
>>>>>>>>>> dashboard
 > > >>>>>>>>>> pages by default.
 > > >>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>> We should also make it easy to make
these pages dashboard
 > pages
 > > >>>>>>>>>> when in
 > > >>>>>>>>>> the wysiwyg. Like include a
"dashboard" macro.
 > > >>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>> I view it like that:
 > > >>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>> 1/ Open a page in wysiwyg
 > > >>>>>>>>>> 2/ Type some text, include a dashboard
macro
 > > >>>>>>>>>> 3/ Save
 > > >>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>> When in view the dashboard macro
renders the dashboard
 > settings
 > > >>>>>>>>>> saved in
 > > >>>>>>>>>> the content field of the dashboard
macro or in XWiki  objects
   >
save
 > >>>>>>>>>> in the
 > >>>>>>>>>> page.
 > >>>>>>>>>> It adds JS tools to allow to move and
change your gadgets  and
  > >> panels
 > >>>>>>>>>> used in your dashboard.
 > >>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>> Gadgets on the iGoogle panel also have an Edit
Settings  action
 > on
 > > >>>>>>>>> the top
 > > >>>>>>>>> right
 > > >>>>>>>>> corner of every gadget, which opens a form
with settings  for
  > that
 > > >>>>>>>>> gadget.
 > > >>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>> Question:
 > > >>>>>>>>> If one user changes these settings, should
they be visible  to
    >>>>>>>>> everyone, or
 >>>>>>>>> just to the
 >>>>>>>>> user editing them? (this way different users will
see the  gadgets
  >>>>>>>>> with
 >>>>>>>>> different settings
 >>>>>>>>> for the same dashboard)
 >>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>> On the personal dashboard is obvious that only you
get to  change
  >>>>>>>>> them, and
 >>>>>>>>> maybe view
 >>>>>>>>> the dashboard,
 >>>>>>>>> but what about any dashboard added as a macro on a
regular  page?
 > >>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>> I think the changes should be visible to
everyone with view
 > rights
 > >>>>>>>>> on the
 > >>>>>>>>> page, and
 > >>>>>>>>> the settings editable for everyone with edit
rights on the  same
 > > >> page.
 > > >>>>>>>>> WDYT?
 > > >>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>> With this method we might not need the
xpage=dashboard
 > template,
 > > >>>>>>>>>> as you
 > > >>>>>>>>>> could just have an #if in the
XWikiUserSheet which  displays
  > the
 > > >>>>>>>>>> dashboard based on URL params.
 > > >>>>>>>>>> The #if would make a call to the XWiki
{{dashboard}} macro
 > > >>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>> Ludovic
 > > >>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>> Anamaria Stoica a écrit :
 > > >>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi devs,
 > > >>>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to start working on
Gadgets Integration. (this  is
  a
 > > new
 > > >>>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>> feature)
 > > >>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> I've been working on the specs
with Guillaume, and you  can
  > see
 > > >> the
 > > >>>>>>>>>> Design
 > > >>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> page here:
 > > >>>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/GadgetIntegration
 > > >>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> The aim of the gadget integration
is to provide XWiki  users
    with
 >> a
 >>>>>>>>>>> dashboard-like page that will display a list
of gadgets.  These
  >>>>>>>>>>>
gadgets
 >>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>> can
 >>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>> be either internal gadgets (similar to XWiki
panels) or
 external
 >>>>>>>>>>> gadgets
 >>>>>>>>>>> (coming from the Google Gadget repository
for instance).  Users
  >> can
 >>>>>>>>>> select
 >>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>> which gadgets to display on their dashboard
from a gadget
 >> directory
 >>>>>>>>>> located
 >>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>> on the wiki.
 >>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>> I've also created a few Mockups here
 >>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>
 >>

http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegrationfor
  > >
>>>>>>>>>>> the Dashboard, Gadget Windows and Gadgets
Directory.
 > > >>>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> List of features:
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> Dashboard
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> - Dashboard for each user with
drag&drop for Gadget  Windows
  > >
>>>>>>>>>>> - Display both Google Gadgets and XWiki
Gadgets (Panels)
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> Directory
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> - An internal directory with
Gadgets in the wiki divided  in
  3
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> parts:
 > > >>>>>>>>>>>         * XWiki Gadgets defined in
the wiki / in the farm
 > > >> (current
 > > >>>>>>>>>> Panels)
 > > >>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>>>         * Google Gadgets selected
out of the global  Google
  > >
>>>>>>>>>>> Directory by
 > > >>>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>> wiki
 > > >>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> admins
 > > >>>>>>>>>>>         * If allowed by wiki
admins: full Google Gadgets
 > > >> Directory
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to include all of the
above with basic
 > functionalities
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> into
 > > >>>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>> 2.2M1.
 > > >>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> One thing is not clear at this
point>>  The relationship
 > > between
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> XWiki
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> Gadgets and current Panels:
 > > >>>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> They are basically the same thing
(same content), but  they
   will
 > >>>>>>>>>>> have
 > >>>>>>>>>>> different containers (drag&drop
window with edit settings  on
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> Dashboard
 > > >>>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>> and
 > > >>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> present containers for the side
menu Panels).
 > > >>>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> Will all Panels make sense as
XWiki Gadgets? If no, when  a
  > new
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> Panel is
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> created, how do you know it's
meant to be only a side  menu
   >
Panel
 > >>>>>>>>>>> and not
 > >>>>>>>>>>> also a XWikiGadget? (this applies for
current Panels as  well)
 > > >>>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> Also, very important: where should
the interface for the
 > > Gadgets
 > > >>>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>> Directory
 > > >>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> be placed? Appended to
Panels.WebHome or new directory
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> Gadgets.WebHome?
 > > >>>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>> In
 > > >>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> my opinion it needs a different
interface from the Panel
 > Wizard
 > > >>>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>> Interface.
 > > >>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> The Panel Wizard is in the Wiki
Preferences  (administration
   >
>>>>>>>>>>> space) open
 > >>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>> only
 > >>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>> to Admins, but the Directory will have
to be available to  all
 > > >> users
 > > >>>>>>>>>> (even
 > > >>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> browsable by everyone).
 > > >>>>>>>>>>>
 > > >>>>>>>>>>> An admin interface for picking
Google Gadgets from  iGoogle
   >
>>>>>>>>>>> Directory
 > >>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>> and/or
 > >>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>> XWiki Panels for the Gadgets Directory
might be needed.
 > >>>>>>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>>>>>> How should I treat the 2 of them (XWiki
Gadgets vs side  menu

>>>>>>>>>>> Panels)?
 >>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
 >>>>>>>>>>> Anamaria
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Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Gadgets Integration