Re: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Start supporting IE10 and IE11

IMO we should modify http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/BrowserSupportStrategy with something like "we support what Microsoft support". It's simple and easy to defend IMO (why the hell would we do what Microsoft does not ?).

On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau wrote: > +1 for IE9/10/11 > +0 for IE8 (there is a lot of users but even Microsoft does not support it!) > > > 2014-09-04 16:11 GMT+02:00 Thomas Mortagne : > >> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Thomas Mortagne >> wrote: >> > What about supporting what Microsoft support ? That means not IE9/10/11 >> only. >> >> Remove the "not" of course. >> >> > >> > See >> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2014/08/07/stay-up-to-date-with-internet… >> . >> > >> > IMO we should not do more that the own browser editor does. >> > >> > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 3:40 PM, vincent(a)massol.net >> wrote: >> >> Reviving this thread since we need to decide and lots of committers >> haven’t voted yet! >> >> >> >> I’ve updated >> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/BrowserSupportStrategy with >> recent market share. >> >> >> >> Note that there are various other sources and they don’t seem to show >> similar data: >> >> - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers >> >> - http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parts_de_march%C3%A9_des_navigateurs_web >> >> - http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php >> >> >> >> However I think they all show that if we wish to support 80% of users >> we have to support about the 10 top browsers used and AFAICS this includes: >> >> - IE8/9/10/11 >> >> - FF latest >> >> - Chrome latest >> >> - Safari latest >> >> >> >> It seems market shared for IE8/9 are still high. However IE10 is less >> high (probably because those who upgraded to it quickly upgraded to IE11)? >> >> >> >> So far we have the following votes: >> >> - Andrea: +1 to support IE10/11 >> >> - Vincent: +1 to support IE10/11 >> >> - Marius: +1 to support IE11, +0 to support IE8/9/10 >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> -Vincent >> >> >> >> >> >> On 10 Jun 2014 at 09:08:43, vincent(a)massol.net (vincent(a)massol.net >> (mailto:vincent@massol.net)) wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi Andrea/all, >> >>> >> >>> On 10 Jun 2014 at 08:46:45, Andreea Popescu (andreea.popescu(a)xwiki.com >> (mailto:andreea.popescu@xwiki.com)) wrote: >> >>> >> >>> > Hello all, >> >>> > >> >>> > Following the "Start supporting IE10 and IE11" thread I’d like to >> propose >> >>> > to vote if we will support IE10 and IE11. >> >>> >> >>> FTR the thread in question is at >> http://markmail.org/message/zjlbcfkl5cqnrwfk >> >>> >> >>> > The most important reasons for supporting these versions are: >> >>> > >> >>> > - Internet Explorer 8 and Internet Explorer 9 are still widely used >> by >> >>> > users, but many of them are currently choosing to update to IE10 and >> IE11. >> >>> > - according to netmarketshare.com (Browsers -> Desktop Share by >> Version) >> >>> > from a total of 100%, IE10 is used by 6.85% users and IE11 by 16.61% >> users. >> >>> > It’s true that IE10 is not as popular as the older versions (IE8 - >> 20.85% >> >>> > and IE9 - 8.89%), but its usage percentage is still significant. >> >>> > >> >>> > Here’s my +1. >> >>> >> >>> On the above-mentioned thread Marius had proposed to support only the >> latest version of each browser, which is basically what we’re doing except >> for IE. The rationale is that it takes time to support all browsers and the >> community can only do so much. Companies offering paid services on top of >> XWiki could support the other browser versions for their customers. >> >>> >> >>> While I understand that, my POV is a bit different: I’d like that we >> support the top browsers/versions used by the majority of people, because I >> feel XWiki will be successful if the majority of people can use it without >> problems. >> >>> >> >>> Looking at the graph at >> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/BrowserSupportStrategy if >> we were to support at least the top 6 browser/versions we would cover 70% >> of the user base. For IE this means supporting IE8-11. Note that strangely >> IE8 is the top browser in market shares, way above most of the others… Not >> supporting it ATM would mean “loosing" 20%+ of users. If we have problems >> supporting, say the top 10 browsers, then we can drop to top 6, if that’s >> an issue, then to top 5, etc. ATM we’re supporting 5 browsers and with >> IE10-11, this would mean raising to 7 browsers. I propose that we try it >> with the additional 2 browsers (IE10-11) and see if it’s a burden for us or >> it’s manageable. >> >>> >> >>> So there are 2 questions in here: >> >>> - Starting the support for IE10-11: I’m +1 for that >> >>> - Deciding if we want to support only one version for each browser or >> instead support the highest browsers in marketshare. I’m +1 for the >> marketshare approach. >> >>> >> >>> Thanks >> >>> -Vincent >> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> devs mailing list >> >> devs(a)xwiki.org >> >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Thomas Mortagne >> >> >> >> -- >> Thomas Mortagne >> _______________________________________________ >> devs mailing list >> devs(a)xwiki.org >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >> > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > devs(a)xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs -- Thomas Mortagne _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs