On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 00:02, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
<valicac(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
  On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 17:09, Sergiu Dumitriu
<sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
  On 03/05/2011 03:18 PM, Denis Gervalle wrote:
  +1, Great ! but...
 Should not the feedback form be also accessible without triggering a
 download ?
 I can imagine that you can want to came back to it later, and it will
 trigger the download again, which is not expected. 
 +1, not everybody that downloads the software wants to give feedback,
 but definitely not everybody that wants to give feedback started by
 downloading it.
 
 If you remove all params - you are left with
 
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Feedback 
Nice, why not do we put a link inside XWiki itself to this feedback page,
with a params declaring which exact product we are in ?
On the default Home Page, or in a default panels, or in the Admin
application ?
That could be more natural to download, try and finally provide feedback
IMO.
Denis
 Thanks,
 Caty
 >
 > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 18:53, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
 > <valicac(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
 >
 >> Hi,
 >>
 >> I've implemented the proposed version
 >>
 >> enterprise
 >> 
http://enterprise.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download
 >>
 >> manager
 >> 
http://manager.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download
 >>
 >> watch
 >> 
http://watch.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download
 >>
 >> xeclipse
 >> 
http://xeclipse.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download
 >>
 >> xoffice
 >> 
http://xoffice.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download
 >>
 >> Please vote on this versions.
 >>
 >> This variant deprecates xwiki:Main.Download and will need also a 
 change
  in
 > Panels.Download that will relate to the local
Main.Download instead of 
 the
 > global xwiki: link.
>
> The feedback form is activated so we will receive the messages, but 
 there
 >> is
 >> only one general form and the messages are redirected just to one 
 email
  >
address. Some developer needs to fix this in order for the companies
> checkbox to work.
>
> Thanks,
> Caty
>
> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 16:05, Vincent Massol<vincent(a)massol.net> 
wrote:
 >>
 >>> Hi Caty,
 >>>
 >>> That's good to me. I believe it's a good first version that we can
  tune
  >>
later on.
>>
>> I'm +1 to implement it like this for now.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>> On Feb 16, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> *Design proposal:*
>>>
>>
> 
  
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadRe…
 
>>>
>>> *Mockups:*
>>> XWiki Enterprise Manager Download Page
>>>
>>
> 
  
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownlo…
 
>>>
>>> XWiki Enterprise Download Page - Part 1
>>>
>>
> 
  
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownlo…
 
>>>
>>> XWiki Enterprise Download Page - Part 2
>>>
>>
> 
  
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownlo…
 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Caty
>>>
>>> P.S.* Prototypes* (with incubator style):
>>>
>>
> 
  
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadMa…
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadEn…
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadEn…
  >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:17, Vincent Massol<vincent(a)massol.net>
 >>> wrote:
 >>>>
 >>>>> Hi everyone,
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Thanks for your feedback on my previous mail on this topic. I've
 >>> discussed
 >>>>> it more with Gregory and Emilie and here's what we'd like to
 propose
  >>
now:
>>>>
>>>> * Add a Profesional Services heading on the download which would
> contain
>>>> ** Some text explaining about community support and linking to
>>>> 
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Support (which already
>> describes
>>>> community support)
>>>> ** A livetable containing companies offering professional services 
for
 >>>> XWiki. The columns would be:
>>>> *** Logo
>>>> *** Company name
>>>> *** Number of active committers
>>>> *** Link to the correct anchor on the Support page (
>>>> 
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Support)
>>>> ** The livetable would only show 3 entries
>>>> ** The livetable would be sorted by active committers by default
>>>> ** A text that explains how to add a new company to the list and 
which
 >>>> would point to the Governance
page (
>>>> 
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Governance)
>>>>
>>>> * We will remove the current XWiki SAS support link since that
>> information
>>>> will be moved to the livetable
>>>>
>>>> * Rework the download page so that when a download link is clicked,
 it
 >>>>> opens a new page containing the feedback questionnaire while the
 >>> download
 >>>>> happens
 >>>>> ** Note that for this to be technically possible I propose to 
 
remove
  >> the
 >>>>> link to the OW2 mirrors and instead link to the only existing 
mirror
  >>> (OW2
 >>>>> seems to have only 1...). If not, we would need some code to 
compute
  >>
which
>>>> OW2 mirror to use based on the location.
>>>>
>>>> * The feedback questionnaire page would contain the following:
>>>> ** The following questionnaire:
>>>>
>>
> 
  
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/SatisfactionSurveyProducts(let…
 
>>>> ** The questionnaire would start with a first question asking to 
which
 >>>>> companies it should be sent to. We would list all companies 
 
offering
  >>>>> professional support (using
checkboxes) with a special text for the
 >> top
 >>> one
 >>>>> ("Top contributor") and in parenthesis listing the number
of active
 >>>>> committers. For example:
 >>>>>
 >>>>> [ ] XWiki SAS - Top contributor with 15 active committers
 >>>>> [ ] Softec - 1 active committer
 >>>>>
 >>>>> ** A text explaining that it's optional and what the
questionnaire
 >> will
 >>> be
 >>>>> used for, i.e. that
 >>>>> *** it will be published anonymously on 
xwiki.org to improve the
 >>> product
 >>>>> *** it will be sent to the companies for which the user has checked
 >> the
 >>> box
 >>>>>
 >>>>>
 >>>>> We've tried to design this proposal with taking 2 ideas into
 account:
 
>>>> 1) that it's fair and that all companies can have a fair visibility
>>>> 2) that it's visible which companies contribute the most (to reward
>> their
>>>> contributions)
>>>>
>>>> WDYT?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> -Vincent
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 10, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi devs and everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> Emilie has proposed the following content to be added to the 
Download
 >>>>> page (
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download):
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> 
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/TextDownload
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> The idea is twofold:
 >>>>>> 1) to get feedback about what people think about our software.
 >>>>>> 2) some people who download the XWiki software from
xwiki.orgdon't
 >>> know
 >>>>> that XWiki SAS has a commercial offerings and could be interested
  by
  > it
>>>>>
>>>>> The pros for the community are:
>>>>> 1) XWiki SAS will publish back the result of the feedback it 
receives
 >>>>> from the download form which will allow us to fine tune and improve
 >> the
 >>>>> software
 >>>>>> 2) XWiki SAS could get more business (from people who want to
buy
 >>>>> support, dev work, hosting, etc) which will mean accrued budget for
 >>> paying
 >>>>> developers and resources to work on the XWiki project
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> Note 1: the form would be of course optional
 >>>>>> Note 2: in the future I'd like to see a not for profit
foundation 
  to
 
>>>> handle 
xwiki.org, the xwiki open source project, donations, etc. 
When
 >> this
>>>> happens we could elect from member for the foundation and have the
>> feedback
>>>> form sent to that foundation for example, with members of the
> foundation
>>>> having access to the data (for example).
>>>>>
>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> -Vincent Massol, acting as both CTO of XWiki SAS and XWiki open
> source
>>>> developer 
 --
 Sergiu Dumitriu
 
http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
 _______________________________________________
 devs mailing list
 devs(a)xwiki.org
 
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
   _______________________________________________
 devs mailing list
 devs(a)xwiki.org
 
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs