11 Sep
2013
11 Sep
'13
8:50 p.m.
Hi Clemens,
First of all, thanks for your feedback. It helps a lot.
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Clemens Klein-Robbenhaar
<c.robbenhaar(a)espresto.com> wrote:
Hi devs,
as I recently played around with the DW on a fresh
install instead of a migration, I figured out the "Cancel" button does not what
I guess most users expect it to do.
There has been some debate about the Cancel and Skip buttons and
you're not the only one considering them misleading. I also agree, but
I haven't seen seen / heard alternatives that are much better.
With a fresh install when there are no pages in the wiki, choosing "cancel"
leaves one with a completely empty wiki where one cannot do anything, especially not
login to import ones custom set of pages.
If one really has a custom set of pages, probably one is experienced enough to know
about the "superadmin" account.
(Even then one might expect from earlier version that
it is possible to upload an initial XAR without having to log in, and be confused when it
is not there.)
It was documented in the release notes as this is an important change
in XWiki 5.1. See
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki50#HPubli…
.
Unfortunately unexperienced users, who might just know the "standalone"
HSQL/Jetty distro with their pre-installed pages, might be confused when they set up
XWiki
"the right way". The typical reaction when being confused is to press the
"Cancel" button, which normally is the "get me out of here" way to fix
things if some unexpected
dialog pops up.
I guess I'm the only one naive enough to think user read the messages
displayed on dialogs. I added the "If you want to perform the install
manually then ..." message hoping it will reduce the confusion.
However in the installation process this is exactly
what an unexperienced user should *not* do. At most "skip" is the right option,
if the user really wants to see how the wiki
looks without UI.
I wonder if instead of "Cancel" a stronger
word like "Abort" should be used. Or maybe if pressing "Cancel" at
install time one should get a javascript alert saying "If you
choose this option you will have to activate the "superadmin" user in the
config file, as no default admin user will be installed, and the wiki will be nearly
useless without."
(message should appear only in case of a fresh install, i.e. if there are no pages in the
DB, of course).
This is a good idea.
Additionally maybe it is helpful to color the button red instead of blue. (Well, maybe
this is even all that needs to change to keep newbies from pressing that button).
Are you sure it's blue?
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/DistributionWizard#HDWona…
it's a secondary button so it's definitely not blue. I think red is
too much.
Thanks again,
Marius
Cheers,
Clemens
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