Hi Caty,
  On 20 Jun 2018, at 11:31, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
<valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 12:09 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
  Hi Caty,
  On 19 Jun 2018, at 17:29, Ecaterina Moraru
(Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com> 
 wrote:
 Hi devs,
 Some ideas that could be applied to left panels area:
 * Mark "More applications" as expandable 
 Seems good
  * Provide a "Customize" panel button on
hover 
 I agree with the general idea.
 Some details:
 * For admins only right?
 * What does it do? We don’t have the concept of Panel administration ATM.
 What would work is edit the panel page but then we may want to go further
 than that. Editing  needs to be an option but some panel may provide an
 admin UI too such as the Navigation Panel or the Applications Panel. Maybe
 it’s time to update the Panel XClass and add an xproperty for the
 administration of panels, which would be used if not empty.
  
 In theory only for Admins, since they have access to Administration.
 Currently we have dedicated customizations for AppBar and Navigation, so
 having that button would help the discoverability. 
Yes
  Being able to have it at
 the Panel class, could be nice, but I think it's interesting to have it at
 least as individual customizations for these 2 panels that are on the Left. 
Another panel that comes to mind is the QuickLinks panel that we’re no longer promoting
(it’s not visible by default anymore) but I think it had some nice effect of making users
discover that they can edit panels. If you remember it has a “(edit to add more link)”
kind of link that would be better implemented as a settings/edit button as you’re
proposing.
I think we should offer edit buttons (for any user having editing right on them, we could
protect the Panels app by default with permissions so that only admins can edit panels b
ydefault) so that they can edit all panels easily without having to figure out the name of
the page corresponding to a panel (or having to find the panel in the admin ui panel
wizard).
Thanks
-Vincent
   * Some
styling changes 
 Sounds good
  * Demo: show sticky left panels would behave
   
 I made the sticky demo mostly as an experiment. I even don't know if I like
 it. It's problematic for the current skin, since the logo disappears on
 scrolling.
 I made the demo since we discussed once on the IRC about independent
 containers and wanted to see how it looks like. From an implementation POV
 it's a single "position: sticky" in CSS, but it's not supported in
IE11. So
 this could be an option just for a newer skin or have JS to have the
 behavior.
 I’m also not yet 100% sure about the sticky panels but why not, we should
 discuss the details. What I don’t like are for cases when you have panels
 that span more than a screenful vertically.
 It’s possible there’s not a single valid choice depending how you want to
 implement your website and thus maybe the only option is to have this
 configurable in the general Panel Admin UI (fixed panels or sticky panels).
 That’s what would make the most sense to me. Once we have this, the default
 should be what looks best with the default content we provide for XS.
  
 Yeap, for KB having a sticky TOC or Navigation panel would look great, but
 it's not the case for all the Flavors. So having it customizable would be
 preferred.
 Thanks,
 Caty
> I like those ideas! :)
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>>
>> See the prototype in action:
>> 
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/
> IdeaExpandableAppBar/AppBar.gif
>>
>> The full proposal at:
>> 
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/IdeaExpandableAppBar
>>
>> Let me know what you think.
>> Thanks,
>> Caty