4 Sep
2014
4 Sep
'14
4:43 p.m.
ok after discussing with Thomas we agreed that it would be better to agree to support
ranges of versions for IE and then decide which minimal version we drop.
Right now officially we support IE8/9 which is stupid since it means that officially we
don’t support the latest IE version (11).
So the new vote is:
* Support all IE versions from the older version we support to the latest version (i.e.
IE8-11 as today).
Then we can have a separate VOTE to drop IE8 support (I’ll send it separately).
Here’s my +1
Thanks
-Vincent
On 4 Sep 2014 at 16:34:48, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau
(gdelhumeau@xwiki.com(mailto:gdelhumeau@xwiki.com)) wrote:
+1 for IE9/10/11
+0 for IE8 (there is a lot of users but even Microsoft does not support it!)
2014-09-04 16:11 GMT+02:00 Thomas Mortagne :
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Thomas Mortagne
wrote:
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http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs What about supporting what Microsoft support ?
That means not IE9/10/11
only.
Remove the "not" of course.
See
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2014/08/07/stay-up-to-date-with-internet…
.
IMO we should not do more that the own browser editor does.
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 3:40 PM, vincent(a)massol.net
wrote:
> Reviving this thread since we need to decide
and lots of committers
haven’t voted yet!
>
> I’ve updated
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/BrowserSupportStrategy with
recent market share.
>
> Note that there are various other sources and they don’t seem to show
similar
data:
> -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers
> - http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parts_de_march%C3%A9_des_navigateurs_web
> - http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php
>
> However I think they all show that if we wish to support 80% of users
we have
to support about the 10 top browsers used and AFAICS this includes:
> - IE8/9/10/11
> - FF latest
> - Chrome latest
> - Safari latest
>
> It seems market shared for IE8/9 are still high. However IE10 is less
high
(probably because those who upgraded to it quickly upgraded to IE11)?
>
> So far we have the following votes:
> - Andrea: +1 to support IE10/11
> - Vincent: +1 to support IE10/11
> - Marius: +1 to support IE11, +0 to support IE8/9/10
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>
> On 10 Jun 2014 at 09:08:43, vincent(a)massol.net (vincent(a)massol.net
(mailto:vincent@massol.net)) wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrea/all,
>>
>> On 10 Jun 2014 at 08:46:45, Andreea Popescu (andreea.popescu(a)xwiki.com
(mailto:andreea.popescu@xwiki.com)) wrote:
>>
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > Following the "Start supporting IE10 and IE11" thread I’d like to
propose
>> > to vote if we will support IE10 and
IE11.
>>
>> FTR the thread in question is at
http://markmail.org/message/zjlbcfkl5cqnrwfk
>>
>> > The most important reasons for supporting these versions are:
>> >
>> > - Internet Explorer 8 and Internet Explorer 9 are still widely used
by
>> > users, but many of them are
currently choosing to update to IE10 and
IE11.
>> > - according to netmarketshare.com
(Browsers -> Desktop Share by
Version)
>> > from a total of 100%, IE10 is used
by 6.85% users and IE11 by 16.61%
users.
>> > It’s true that IE10 is not as
popular as the older versions (IE8 -
20.85%
>> > and IE9 - 8.89%), but its usage
percentage is still significant.
>> >
>> > Here’s my +1.
>>
>> On the above-mentioned thread Marius had proposed to support only the
latest version of each browser, which is basically what we’re doing except
for IE. The rationale is that it takes time to support all browsers and the
community can only do so much. Companies offering paid services on top of
XWiki could support the other browser versions for their customers.
>>
>> While I understand that, my POV is a bit different: I’d like that we
support the top browsers/versions used by the majority of people, because I
feel XWiki will be successful if the majority of people can use it without
problems.
>>
>> Looking at the graph at
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/BrowserSupportStrategy if
we were to support at least the top 6 browser/versions we would cover 70%
of the user base. For IE this means supporting IE8-11. Note that strangely
IE8 is the top browser in market shares, way above most of the others… Not
supporting it ATM would mean “loosing" 20%+ of users. If we have problems
supporting, say the top 10 browsers, then we can drop to top 6, if that’s
an issue, then to top 5, etc. ATM we’re supporting 5 browsers and with
IE10-11, this would mean raising to 7 browsers. I propose that we try it
with the additional 2 browsers (IE10-11) and see if it’s a burden for us or
it’s manageable.
>>
>> So there are 2 questions in here:
>> - Starting the support for IE10-11: I’m +1 for that
>> - Deciding if we want to support only one version for each browser or
instead support the highest browsers in marketshare. I’m +1 for the
marketshare approach.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
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